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deltaComm Online Node 5 06-30-93 23:34 Name: NEIL PARKS Scanning OfflineMail (364) Conference Date: 06-08-93 (01:53) Number: 2923 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: MARTIN SCHILDKRET Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF│When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time it │was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it is sometimes If you are using the QMAIL door it depends on the option you have selected in the configuration of QMAIL..... * OLX 2.2 * Have You Listened To Rush Limbaugh Today ?..... --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:33) Number: 2926 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> Oh well, I have broken down, and started using all weekend FV> RoboMail. Now THAT is indeed a great program. It does FV> everything in my opinion so well. Well Frank, what can I say. Having seen your past posts here and on GroupOne, "Gotcha" slips readily from the tongue <Bg>. I say this remembering how relutantly my fingers were pryed from my beloved Speed Read (another solid mail reader) <g>. IMO, RM isn't too shabby especially for v1.0. After using it for awhile I think it betrays the real thought Dan gave to design and feature issues which are not evident in just a quick and dirty test drive. FV> There is one feature I have not gotten to work, and that is FV> the "sending copies" command. I checked page 40. I cannot find FV> the COPIES button. Is it "hidden" some- where? I am using it FV> with the mouse, so I should be able to click on Frank, it's in the Address Header (also assessable for direct editing via ALT-E) right hand side under "Re-Edit" then just follow the bouncing ball. I think you will find that this has some nice options. As with the Forwarding header the appearance of the Carbon Copy header is directly modifiable by changing the COPY.FRM text files. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ Will beta test for <F>ood. * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (20:08) Number: 2927 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DJ> Is it **necessary** to pack the Robomail database once in a DJ> while? I had to pack it once so far because RM crashed. Is DJ> that the only reason I would **have to** pack it, or is it DJ> recommended that it be done on a regular basis for maintenance DJ> reasons? Daniel, it isn't strictly necessary however I think it is a good idea to do pack as you say for maintenance reasons. Here's what happens. When you delete messages they still remain in RoboMail's database file (although you can no longer access them). Packing purges these deleted messages from the database then packs the file. Depending on how large your message database gets you can see real performance increases in importing messages and in the overall speed of RoboMail after packing the database. Regards, -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (14:07) Number: 2928 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ You are welcome, and sure hope that you have a good time with RoboMail. I am having a lot of fun with this new reader, Chau. Thanks. CP│ Yup! it usually take few weeks to get to know a new program, and awhile CP│ to be be able to explore it. You have that right, but I think it is going much faster, since I use it every day, and am posting lots of messages in the conferences. CP│ No problem at all Frank. The things you asked are the commands most of CP│ us use daily, and I just combine them together to come up with a macro. That is really great. Again thanks very much for your responses. Bye ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 08:07 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (14:07) Number: 2929 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ I was surprised about his age, and especially his programming style CP│ which surprised me the most. Will it shouldn't come as a surprise. His parents are lawyers and Kip is a young student at school. I don't know, how old he is. I have never met nor spoken to him, but one of the sysops has talked to him one day. Don't know more about him. CP│ I think and hope that RoboMail will grow since it has more users for CP│ more suggestion. I am sure if Dan Parsons, as he is doing now, will continue the sup- port, that the program will grow and become one of the most popular readers in the industry. CP│ It seems like everyone on QEdit conference are so excited about the CP│ power of TSE and the macro language. Yes the Semware Application Language (SAL) is one of the most powerful and easy to use macro languages developed by Semware. The pre-release book for version 1.0 is some 370 pages big, and the print is pretty small. I have been doing several exercises, and when I got stuck one of the beta testers that used Tessie helped me on and on. I made it clear, that the book in a few instances was not too clear on that and that subject, so I was asked to help out, which I did. They sent me the text on disk, and I went thru it, tried it, and commented and re-wrote several big pieces for them. Semware was very appreciative, and they will include the changes, as I have been told. CP│ Does it support laser printer yet? I think it should as many users have CP│ either Inkjet or laser printer these days. With QEdit, I had to add a CP│ macro (command) in QCONFIG.DAT to load a set of laser code (someone create CP│ it to use with 4DOS). Not in the sense of fonts. But what is nice, is that you have much more control over the printer, than say for instance in Qedit. You can do it from the pull-down menu, and you can also for instance stop printing between pages. I use that a lot, since I can then turn the page over, and print on the other side on my DeskJet 500 printer. Great for printing docs... The macro language is more powerful in SAL than Qedit. Your laser fonts would need to be embedded into the text, once you have set it up. I am not that familiar with that aspect. What is also surprising, is that Tessie is so extremely fast. I have done sorts that take less than a couple of seconds, while finding for instance a name or word in a large file took part of one second. I had over 4500 lines document, and searched for a filename. Pressed the key, and there it was the cursor on the word and on line 2560. Now that would be a nice feature to have on the bbs. There you have to wait for seconds and seconds. Seems like forever. Grrrin. CP│ I truly think that macro will make program more flexible and more CP│ powerful. Yes you have that one right, Chau. Well it was nice chatting with you again. Thanks very much for your response. Bye ... :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 08:28 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (14:07) Number: 2930 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ I don't think that it'll be much stranger to you as you already familar CP│ with database type reader. And you know exactly what feature you looking CP│ for from old one. Yes that made a big difference, Chau. And I am using that knowledge on a daily basis... grrrin. CP│ MegaRead can't handle >1,400 conferences. I bet it'll take time to CP│ explore it. Also, this is one of the feature I think that RoboMail will CP│ need, and this is the reason why. RoboMail doesn't have any problems with that many conferences. As I stated before, I am on Space bbs, which has over some 2600 conferen- ces. (I am not reading all of them.... grrrin) CP│ -I have few old .QWK packets I saved to test out the problem I had with CP│ MainMail when the year changed from 1992 to 1993 CP│ -The DATE (YEAR to) got messed up (MicroSoft C 7.x bug) so I don't think CP│ that RoboMail can recognize it. MegaRead uses Imported: Date I don't know, whether RM will have a problem with that. Need to wait till the year changes.. grrin. CP│ -Now, I think it need an option to TAG and KILL all the tagged messages at CP│ once instead of tag them one by one. It may already has this option but CP│ I don't seem to find it yet. Yes that is all very easy to do and it is in the docs on page 35. Bulk Tagging and Untagging. To tag all the messages in the current thread, conference or system, press Ctrl-T and select an option from the pop-up menu. Note that only messages in the current message class (Recent, Chron, Outbox) are tagged. To remove all tags from messages that are of a specific message class, press [Ctrl-U] while viewing messages, followed by a number from 1-9, indicating the tag group that you want cleared. To write all members of a tag group to a text file, press [T] while viewing messages, RM will display a menu of the currently defined tag groups and prompt you for the name of the file you want to append to. Press [F10] for a pop-up directory, type a filename and press [enter] to begin the writing process. RM will ask it you want to clear the tags from messages as they are written to disk. This above was taken from the docs in RM. And as you can see, that makes it very easy and simple to use. Also you can do all this stuff on a batch file and on the command line by using the various switches, and clear all old stuff that you have read, have an automated startup and import the .qwk packet, export all outbox messages, mark all aged- out messages for deletion, various ways of packing data and text files search and destroy all orphaned messages, log command line results to a file, and force color or monochrome at startup. Well it is all pretty powerful. Hope that this helps. Have a nice day. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 08:52 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (01:49) Number: 2931 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JIM HANOIAN From: RAY JOYCE Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * but in ordinary circumstances, the header merely repeats the data * which exists in the real header, right? So why put it in? In my * estimation, it isn't quite as bad as flashy boxes, but close... Exactly. Sometimes the header info, tagline, tail line, boxes, etc. all but obliterate a one or two line message. <G> --- * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (01:49) Number: 2932 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: RAY JOYCE Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * Oh well, I have broken down, and started using all weekend RoboMail. * Now THAT is indeed a great program. I have started to love it now, and * the more I learn, the more I appreciate, what Dan Parsons has done to * make it such a desirable product. It does everything in my opinion so * well. I have printed out the manual, so I can check out the comments Sure sounds like a happy person to me. <G> --- * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:59) Number: 2934 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: JOE NEGRON Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-05-93 20:09, Dan Lloyd uttered the following to Joe Negron: JN∙ Yes, it crashed alot on me too, especially in DESQview. DL> I use DV too. Make sure your have the /OP0 switch set. Otherwise, > RoboMail presumes it's okay to use 50k of your EMS page frame! > That's right, the page frame, not EMS. And, of course, with DV, > where you're running other programs using EMS, or where you're > running a disk cache or ram drive or other device/TSR that uses EMS, > this can make for some perilous nose dives - but only if you let it. > :-) Um, shouldn't RoboMail be "smart" enough to know that it's running under DESQview and disable this behaviour? --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Tue, 06-08-1993-- ... If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:59) Number: 2935 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: JOE NEGRON Subj: DATABASE READERS - WHY? Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-05-93 23:16, Daniel Juarez uttered the following to Joe Negron: JN> Seems that these memory hogs have a stability problem, even with > adequate hardware (I have a 486 w/16MB RAM). DJ> Just curious, what kind of CPU do you have, Intel or AMD or some > other? Is your computer a DX or SX? It is a i486, 33MHz, DX variety. I also have a 256K cache. --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Tue, 06-08-1993-- ... Windows: The best $89 solitare game you can buy. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:18) Number: 2936 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: TOM FRAZER Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> That is all unbelievable Tom. I do not use the MegaReader any longer, FV> and have never upgraded to your latest version 2.10. But as you show FV> it is quite powerful. Thanks so much for showing it's capabilities. I You're welcome, I find that MegaRead is the most powerful reader around, and believe me I try them all but I keep coming back to this one. Tom Frazer tom.frazer@canrem.com canrem!tom.frazer RIME = ->CRS FIDO = 1:229/15 --- . MegaMail 2.10 : You could advertise in this space call 1-800-555 * CRS Online, Toronto, 416-213-6002 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 CRS (#118) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (08:33) Number: 2941 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> OK. Thanks for the response. Bye .. :-)) Again, it was no problem. ────════ Matt Kleczewski ════──── RelayNet 1825 CircuitNet 414000 CoSysOp BPA BBS (414)-565-4087 300-2400 BOCAModem 2400I, MNP 2-5, V.42bis --- ■ JABBER v1.2 #28 ■ There is more to life than increasing its speed. * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (08:35) Number: 2942 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: OFFLIEN READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> It is unfortunate, you missed the very latest called: ROBOMAIL I will be downloading it and giving it a look-see soon. Right now, Jabber's all I can run on my laptop. ────════ Matt Kleczewski ════──── RelayNet 1825 CircuitNet 414000 CoSysOp BPA BBS (414)-565-4087 300-2400 BOCAModem 2400I, MNP 2-5, V.42bis --- ■ JABBER v1.2 #28 ■ To be, or what? * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (03:04) Number: 2943 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JIM HANOIAN From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH│ Hope you like RoboMail... it looked really good to me. I've JH│ pulled out my old registered MegaMail to do a head-to-head JH│ comparison to Robo. It has been a while (over a year) since JH│ I had last used Mega, and I wanted to do more of a live test... JH│ Maybe my 20 days with Robo weren't enough, but Mega feels like an JH│ old glove... slipped right back into it, and very comfortable, JH│ thank you. I do miss some of the features of Robo, though. I know, what you mean, Jim. Your old reader is so comfortable and it is much harder to get used to a new reader. I use it for several hours a day, and I started finally to love it. I cannot forget about my old "trusty" PMDBM, but then again, I want to get ahead, and use this new reader. I found one bug, I do not like, and that is the printing of a message. If you just pint a message, that is less then one page long, it prints OK, ad I find that acceptable. I am using a DeskJet 500, and it is sheet fed. The reader is apparently set to over 60 lines per page, and that is wrong. It should be set at 56 lines/page. And it should include the header on no more than two lines. That is what my old reader did. Also it should show in the header: Page 1 of 2 and the second page the same header with: Page 2 of 2. That worked so well on my old reader, and I have made the needed recommendations to Dan Parsons. I have writ- ten several dbase programs, which this reader uses, and you can program that not too complicated. The program does count lines, and when a certain line number appears, it does either a certain printing, like page 1 of 6 or what ever you want there to be printed, or nothing at all. I made my own programs, and they look very nice. Some of it require some little routines, but an excellent programmer like Dan Parsons shouldn't see that as an obstacle in the programming.... Other than that all runs fine. Thanks again, and bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 09:27 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (03:04) Number: 2944 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JIM HANOIAN From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> TSE seems like a SUPER editor as I can see through his brother QEdit. FV> I tell you, it is not comparable. When you see, how you can change it FV> to practically any way you want it to work. I am using Tessie every FV> day, and several hours a day for that matter. The printing is another FV> feature, that excels over Qedit. You can make it as you want it. Now FV> they are talking about getting some fonts into Tessie also, but by FV> means of macros. All is done thru macros, and the macros are growing FV> day-by-day. Take a look in the Qedit conference, and you'll see why FV> others are so excited about this editor. Grrin. It becomes addictive! JH│ Have you ever used Brief? If so, how does it compare to TSE? No I never have used Brief. I heard a lot of good things about it, and that also goes for Boxer. They both have some nice features, and the names have been mentioned a number of times in the Qedit conference. I have Kedit, and that is also a very powerful text editor. It is too strange to me. It has some very strange commands, and I cannot get used to it. Have tried several attempts, and the program also runs under OS/2. It also has a very powerful macro language, and is super powerful. To get a file, you press Alt-x and you work from the command line, using the home key. It is not what I wanted, and have tried it. It is not shareware, and it cost me some $125 for the program. Has two thick books as how to use it. You can do some very different things with it, I haven't seen done with other editors. You can change the directory, as how it appears on the screen, can format many ways, including the right margin. Too many things are possible... JH│ QEdit seemed to be the perfect editor for offline readers... do JH│ the changes in TSE make it any better for that purpose? Oh yes. It is a pity there is no demo fro it, but once you have tried Tessie, than you will never go back to Qedit. You find Qedit running too slow. You probably say: Too Slow??? Well there are a number of things you can do, that are much simpler under Tessie. Try and search for a name number or what ever? Well I took a 200 Kbytes text file and searched for a file name. It was a 4500 lines file, and I pressed Ctrl-I to find the filename. Screen comes up and asks the filename. I enter the name, and also answer if it is case-sensitive, and it starts from the beginning of the file, and in less than one second, the cursor is placed on line 2560 with the filename enhanced. I am so impressed, and you can do column sorts and other things. One other feature not found in Qedit, is how the printing is handled. You can configure it any way you want, can put the header, date, page number etc. all on the top of the printed page. Now users are asking for having the odd or even page numbers on the left or right side of the page. Some users are continuing expanding on it. They run that editor thru all kinds of hoops. This Semware Application Language (SAL) is very, very powerful, and I like it a lot. Well I could keep on talking on it seems for ever... grrin. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 09:44 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (03:04) Number: 2945 of 3255 (Refer# 2926) To: GARTH MCKAY From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM│ Well Frank, what can I say. Having seen your past posts here GM│ and on GroupOne, "Gotcha" slips readily from the tongue <Bg>. GM│ I say this remembering how relutantly my fingers were pryed GM│ from my beloved Speed Read (another solid mail reader) <g>. I share that feeling, Garth. It is a great reader, and I am getting more and more used to it. GM│ IMO, RM isn't too shabby especially for v1.0. After using it for GM│ awhile I think it betrays the real thought Dan gave to design GM│ and feature issues which are not evident in just a quick and GM│ dirty test drive. Yes in the beginning, I was not too impressed, and thought, why the heck have all these common to me commands changed so much? What is the reason etc. etc.? But now I am getting more and more used to it. FV> There is one feature I have not gotten to work, and that is FV> the "sending copies" command. I checked page 40. I cannot find FV> the COPIES button. Is it "hidden" some- where? I am using it FV> with the mouse, so I should be able to click on GM│ Frank, it's in the Address Header (also assessable for direct GM│ editing via ALT-E) right hand side under "Re-Edit" then just GM│ follow the bouncing ball. I think you will find that this has GM│ some nice options. As with the Forwarding header the appearance GM│ of the Carbon Copy header is directly modifiable by changing the GM│ COPY.FRM text files. I am sorry, but I still have not got that to work. The COPY.FRM file is in the robomail directory, but when I read a message and press Alt-E, nothing happens. I cannot find the Re-Edit in the header at all. Is that somewhere else? I also do not see any bouncing ball. It is a mystery to me. Any suggestions? If I am in the read a message mode, and press Alt-F then I get the forward to message with the header, but I never got the carbon copy command to work. Now I found something different, and that is when I have written a reply to a message, than the header comes up, and I have then the choice to save it, re-edit, or copy or cancel it, but that seems different from what is explained on page 40, isn't it? Thanks and bye ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 10:07 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (22:13) Number: 2946 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: DAVID LEBLANC Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) When last we saw our heroes, Sammy Finkelman said to All: SF>When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time it SF>was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it is sometimes SF>one and sometimes the other? If sometimes one and sometimes the other, SF>how it is in SLMR Version 2.1a? The date & time in the message header is put there by the offline reader so it is always the date & time it was typed. I presume if the computer does not have a battery driven clock and the date/time was not set at startup that the date/time would become the standard DOS default date/time (see tagline 8^)! ). If you write a message online it is obviously the date at the time you post. ····────════*David LeBlanc> ... Only XT users know that January 1, 1980 was a Tuesday. --- *OLX 3.02* * Hobby Shop BBS Worcester MA 508-752-2632 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 HOBBYSHOP (#5179) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (06:36) Number: 2947 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> │170-IDE, and SVGA with a 1meg card. It may be the same old Mega, but CP> │it is sure gonna look and act differently <grin>. CP> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ CP> The Old Faithful still pumping proudly for a little while yet <G>. It looks and acts a whole lot better now <hehe>. It does need updating, though... no matter how good it is. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (17:31) Number: 2949 of 3255 (Refer# 2932) To: RAY JOYCE From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) RJ│ * the more I learn, the more I appreciate, what Dan Parsons has done to RJ│ * make it such a desirable product. It does everything in my opinion so RJ│ * well. I have printed out the manual, so I can check out the comments RJ│ Sure sounds like a happy person to me. <G> I sure am, Roy. Thanks for the kind words. Bye ... :-)))))) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Wednesday, June 9, at 11:52 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (17:31) Number: 2950 of 3255 (Refer# 2936) To: TOM FRAZER From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> That is all unbelievable Tom. I do not use the MegaReader any longer, FV> and have never upgraded to your latest version 2.10. But as you show FV> it is quite powerful. Thanks so much for showing it's capabilities. TF│ You're welcome, I find that MegaRead is the most powerful reader TF│ around, and believe me I try them all but I keep coming back to this one. I guess a reader is like a woman's purse. She likes it for her own reasons, and one may or may not agree with that, but if you are happy with your reader, by all means you should stick with it. I stuck with mine for 18 months, and got sort of used to the way it worked. Didn't want to switch. Oh no, why should I. There was no better reader. But here I found some things, didn't realize, they could be done, certainly not in my old reader. I can now save any message in a folder, and call it up, sort, search and so many things impossible to perform on the old reader. This new reader has so much more to offer to me. I look forward to further improvements of this version 1.00 Thanks for your response. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Wednesday, June 9, at 11:56 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (17:31) Number: 2951 of 3255 (Refer# 2942) To: MATT KLECZEWSKI From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: OFFLIEN READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> It is unfortunate, you missed the very latest called: ROBOMAIL MK│ I will be downloading it and giving it a look-see soon. Right now, MK│ Jabber's all I can run on my laptop. I agree with you. If your resources are limited, like possibly on a laptop, then you must look at a reader, that can work with limited memory and disk space. RM may not be what you want. It is a large program, and it does take up lots a disk space. It does however take less disk space then my old PMDBM database reader. That gobbled up many mega bytes and it liked my environment. Good luck and bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Wednesday, June 9, at 12:01 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2952 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: PATRICK LEE Subj: Date & time stamping Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Sammy Finkelman writes: -> When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time -> it was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it is -> sometimes one and sometimes the other? If sometimes one and sometimes -> the other, how it is in SLMR Version 2.1a? It depends on the mail door you are using. Some would insist on putting the date/time the message was uploaded, some would use the one already in the message header. This is sometimes a Sysop configurable feature, too. An example of that would be Qmail 4.0ß. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2953 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PHYLLIS BLACK From: PATRICK LEE Subj: Internet Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> About Internet, is there no way I can request a file say from NASA -> Also do you know what FTP means and FAQ. FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol, this is the main method of file transfer over the Internet. Many sites have what is called anonymous FTP which allow anyone to log on to access publicly available files. Just log on using the name ``anonymous'' and type your email address as the password. This is a guest account, kind of. Depending on how fast your Internet connection is, the speed is usually faster than what you can normally achieve with modems. My normal link gives me about 5+ Kb per second - from a 57.6 Kbps line. FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions ... it is what its name suggests. Many USENET newsgroups have FAQ in order to provide new user with information. There is also a Off-line FAQ being posted here. Actually, there are two, one that is done on the USENET equivalent of this conference. The other one is the one here. The easiest method to get files from NASA is to use either FTP or Gopher. Gopher is a new wide area information system. It is preferred method of information gathering because it is so easy to use and presents everything in the same manner. Most Internet sites now support Gopher as well. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2954 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHRIS PRIEDE From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> I didn't know about 32K limit and imported about 6 Mb of Usenet -> articles. Most of them should be less than 32K, but I'm sure some got -> truncated. The software you use to gather USENET mail must be able to split messages or truncate them. The software I use takes everything directly from the mail spool directory, without much processing, so I get what- ever size the original messages were. RoboMail is not too friendly with those long messages ... QEMM decides to give me exception error #13 when I try to import those packets. -> In other words, I'm sure I can provide all the features of database -> reader without creating physical database. Well, yes. You can use some merge program to merge QWK packets together and treat that as a database. But there is much wasted time in merging the files and compressing and decompressing them ... -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2955 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Sheeling out to DOS won't be a big problem, but shelling out to run -> other program may do. Example when you use third party utilities -> like: External editor, ARChive, tagline manager, Spell Checker etc.. -> Just a guess my database is pretty small. RoboMail also uses EMS/XMS memory for data stroage, and not just for shelling. But even then, I don't really care how much memory it takes up! As long as it provides the functionalities I need, it can use as much RAM as it wants. BTW, RoboMail has both internal editor and spell checker. -> Few local folks already installed OS/2 v2.1 and they seem to love -> it.. start looking for OS/2 application for speed <G>. I have OS/2 2.1 GA now and it is pretty nice. Now if only I can figure out why my seemless windows aren't working ... and also to get IBM to release a 32-bit display driver for the S3 chipset, I can't stand 640x480 screens ... that's all I am asking for! -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2956 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MIKE BARON From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail problem Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Do you load the cache from config.sys? I'd like to change the cache -> size in a batch file, but have been unsuccessful so far. You are -> getting far more speed than I am! HyperDisk is great. Yes, I am loading the cache in the CONFIG.SYS file. With 4 Mb of RAM, you should be able to set aside 1 Mb for cache and still give RoboMail enough EMS/XMS to work with. Well, good luck! -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:48) Number: 2957 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOHN EWIN From: PATRICK LEE Subj: Session Manager Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> More than 999 *ACTUAL* confs., you mean? 1.06 *WILL* handle conf. -> NUMBERS above 1000, as I can attest to testing it when I had a board -> with conf. #s that high. Pat Hart told me that he limited the conference display routine to only work with numbers < 1,000 ... Hmm ... Apparently, maybe he meant 1,000 actual conferences. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- ■ RM 1.0 00163 ■ * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (00:19) Number: 2958 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: STEVE MCNAMARA From: GARY PETERSEN Subj: .QWK TO ASCII TEXT FILE Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SM> Does anybody know of a QWK mail reader that will write all the SM> messages of a .QWK mail packet out to one big ASCII file? Silver Xpress will. Using its search feature, you can search for all tagged messages (they're easy to tag, too) and tell Xpress to write them to a file. The current real mode file is SXR302.ZIP. There is also a protected mode version (SXR302P.ZIP). Gary ... Silver Xpress!...... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.02B04P --- * Sound Advice ■ Gladstone ■ MO ■ (816)436-4516 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 SOUNDADVICE (#5072) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (00:19) Number: 2959 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PAUL BELL From: GARY PETERSEN Subj: SILVER XPRESS 3.02 HELP! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PB> Can somebody help me, I am evaluating Silver Xpress 3.02 PB> (version 4.00 is not available in my area, yet) and am having PB> some problems. I'm not sure what this problem is, although I've heard it mentioned before. I'll forward your question to Hector Santos in the FidoNet Xpress_Support conference and reply to you here when I get an answer. PB> Also, I cannot get it to ask me for a Tagline in a reply to a PB> conference that is supposed to allow them. Hmmmm. I don't know about this. I've not heard of that happening before, unless the sysop has disabled taglines. BTW, Silver Xpress 3.02 is the current version of the mail reader. The version 4.00 floating around is the current version of the mail door. Gary ... Silver gives QWK what it badly needed - an Xpression and Silver Lining! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.02B04P --- * Sound Advice ■ Gladstone ■ MO ■ (816)436-4516 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 SOUNDADVICE (#5072) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (00:32) Number: 2961 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MARTIN SCHILDKRET From: GARY PETERSEN Subj: SILVER XPRESS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MS> Ok could you please post the telephone number for the MS> Santronics Xpress Support BBS. Would I also be able to MS> download the latest version of Silver Xpress 3.20 from there. MS> * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 Sure, the Xpress Support BBS, in Leisure City, Florida, is at: 1:135/382 Xpress Support Cente 1-305-248-7815 9600 Hector Santos Leisure City FL CM,XA,HST,V32 Since you're in New York, the following may be closer (although I'm not dead solid certain that they would have the files). 1:101/460 VI/BUG 1-617-767-2909 9600 Donald Breda Holbrook MA CM,HST,V32b,V42b 1:107/919 The Micro Room 1-908-245-6614 9600 Marv Shelton Roselle NJ CM,XA,HST,V32b,V42b 1:129/3 EchoMail Hub 1-412-967-9451 9600 Geoff Block Fox Chapel PA CM,HST,V32b,V42b 1:129/11 First Sanyo Opus 1-412-856-1428 9600 Paul Kelly Trafford PA CM,XA,HST,V32b,V42b 1:129/26 SoundingBoard 1-412-621-4604 9600 Stu Turk Pittsburgh PA CM,XC,HST,V32b,V42b, 1:141/880 The NEW Farm at Mill 1-203-620-0351 9600 Charlie Smith Milldale CT HST,XA,CM 1:3627/210 Bloom Country 1-803-293-3830 9600 John Bloom Myrtle Beach SC V32b,V42b,CM,XA These are all from a recent FidoNet nodelist, and all are part of the Silver Xpress Distribution System (XDS). The files you're looking for, just in case you're like me, and cannot seem to remember that type of thing, are SXR302.ZIP and SXCOLOR.ZIP. Gary ... It's the thought you Xpress that counts! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.02B04P --- * Sound Advice ■ Gladstone ■ MO ■ (816)436-4516 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 SOUNDADVICE (#5072) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (16:41) Number: 2962 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: MONTY GONZALES Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF>When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time it SF>was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it is sometimes SF>one and sometimes the other? If sometimes one and sometimes the other, SF>how it is in SLMR Version 2.1a? I was wondering about that to. So I decided to tell CAM-MAIL, on a PCboard system I call often, to include messages I uploaded in my .QWK packets. It turns out that the date and time of my message were dated at the time I uploaded them. I didn't notice if ALL my posts have the exact time and date, but it's probably safe to assume that. Again this is how it is with PCboard systems, and CamMail. I'm not sure about other BBSes, and their mail doors, but it probably holds true for them also. /\\onty * OLX 2.2 * ACK and you shall receive. --- * The Silhouetter bbs, Stockton, Ca, 1-209-472-0843 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SILHOUET (#5111) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (18:14) Number: 2963 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: DANE BEKO Subj: SPEED & tear-line Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Below, Mr. Beko, is your message forwarded back to you using -> Robomail. Net tags automated out. Nothing changed. There are times, though, where quoting the original tag- and tearlines are desired. RM's stripping of them (I assume that's what happened) would prevent the intentional quoting of same. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ Don't thank me...just spank me... * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (18:14) Number: 2964 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: DANE BEKO Subj: SPEED IS REGISTERED! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> around. In RoboMail's case, almost everything is implemented -> already. With Speed, you're left waiting. Different design philosophies here. RoboMail is nice but not for me. You like it and hopefully will register it. That's what shareware's all about. I like Jim's approach to implementing features. There aren't many bugs in his ßeta versions. SPEED v1.00 didn't have as many problems as RM v1.00 did, in terms of folks being able to get it up and running. It's all relative anyway, eh? :) --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ I'd like to leave a message *before* the beep. * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (18:14) Number: 2965 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: DANE BEKO Subj: Speed & Cross Posting Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> How do you cross post messages using Speed 1.3? When you're in the message reply window, there's a CC: field. Toggle this to "Y" and SPEED will prompt you for the person(s) to whom the carbon-copy message will be sent. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ ┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬ ªR₧ΣD, /\┌┐d ₧rº└┘▄▌ Oƒ ¡┬. * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (18:14) Number: 2966 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: DANE BEKO Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time it -> was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it is sometimes Depends on the maildoor you're using. Some maildoors have a user-toggle to specify which date/time stamp to use. Qmail 4.0 comes to mind here along with others. MarkMail uses the BBS' date/time stamp when importing messages. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ You'll have to be nice to me - I throw up easily! * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (18:26) Number: 2967 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOE NEGRON From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Yes, it crashed alot on me too, especially in DESQview. I run it under DESQview without any crashes. Windoze too. Different strokes (machines). --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ Never test for an error you don't know how to handle. <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (18:26) Number: 2968 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: MAIL READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> As a user, I can highly recommend this reader to any critical user. I -> was not going to give up so easily on my "old" reader. But this new -> RM is just too much to pass up. Good luck and bye .. :-)) I couldn't agree with you more. Simply the best! (Hey that sounds like a tagline ;^) --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ RoboMail -- Simply the best! <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (18:26) Number: 2969 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: RoboMail probles Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) For those of you evaluating RoboMail and are having problems with it crashing please try the following in your AUTOEXEC: SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0 This should fix the problems for most. The problem is that RoboMail will use the PageFrame directly without going through EMS and if your using QEMM STealth -or- DESQview... BOOM! Good luck. Good luck with RoboMail, it is the BEST reader I've come across IMNSHO ;^) --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ RoboMail -- The ultimate QWK compatible message manager. <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:08) Number: 2970 of 3255 (Refer# 2928) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: FRANK VLAMINGS«═── 6/08/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/08/1993 │You have that right, but I think it is going much faster, since I use │it every day, and am posting lots of messages in the conferences. └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ Yup! just take sometime to memorize few basic commands then everything will be nailed. * Qwkit 1.0b * Just say "Nay" to required membership! --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:13) Number: 2971 of 3255 (Refer# 2930) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: FRANK VLAMINGS«═── 6/08/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/08/1993 │RoboMail doesn't have any problems with that many conferences. As I │stated before, I am on Space bbs, which has over some 2600 conferen- │ces. (I am not reading all of them.... grrrin) └ This is what MegaRead needs to improve as soon as possible. ┌ │Yes that is all very easy to do and it is in the docs on page 35. Bulk │Tagging and Untagging. To tag all the messages in the current thread, │conference or system, press Ctrl-T and select an option from the │pop-up menu. Note that only messages in the current message class └ Thanks for the information and I'll try it sometime today to see how it handles this kind of problem. BTW, all the DATE/TIME of all Conf/Subj got messed up, and I keep this .QWK packet to test new reader. ┌ │To write all members of a tag group to a text file, press [T] while │viewing messages, RM will display a menu of the currently defined tag │groups and prompt you for the name of the file you want to append to. └ Another neat feature. MegaRead doesn't do mass murder, and we use one of the macros like this to do it. <AltS>$BBS:8<Enter> ; save to text file using BBSID as filename <^PgDn><F8><^K>w$CONF:8<Enter> ; W/O header and use Conf. as filename ┌ │Well it is all pretty powerful. Hope that this helps. Have a nice day. │Bye .. :-)) └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ Thanks for the information Frank. * Qwkit 1.0b * Just sliding down the razor blade of life . . . --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (12:12) Number: 2972 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAVID POOLE From: JEFF JENNINGS Subj: OLX Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Make sure you have OLX set up to swap to disk, or if you have -> EMS/XMS, that instead. EMS/XMS utilization will make the process -> faster... I would like to use my meg of memory, but there is some kind of conflict so that the arrow keys turn into the numbers (the grey keys at that!), the numbers above the letters turn into !@#$% and the letters are all CAPITAL. Hitting the left shift key disengages. This happens regardless of what TSR's I have loaded. I screws up without any loaded at all. I have a 386sx and got the extra ram put in about a year ago. --- * COMPUTERS & DREAMS (212) 888-6565 10/NODES 2.6Gig FREE! * PostLink(tm) v1.06 COMPNDREAMS (#1638) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (22:54) Number: 2973 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAVID MULLENS From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> I will probably do that. I do have received VM Integrity Failure -> errors. I wonder how long it will be before version 1.1 is out. Any -> guesses? No guess. Dan Parsons posted a short list of things he has already done for version 1.1. He has not said how much more he will put into it before release. I guess I'll go and cross post those messages here. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (22:54) Number: 2974 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail next version Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) This was posted in the RoboMail support conference on ILink ... From: DAN PARSONS To: ALL Date: 06/03/93 Re: RoboMail 1.1 Status Hello Everyone, I just wanted to take a moment to say THANKS to everyone who's tried and/or registered RoboMail. The 1.0 release has been successful beyond my expectations, and I really appreciate everyone's support and enthusiasm. Since I said I would have 1.1 done very soon, and it's not quite ready yet, I wanted to let everyone know what's going on. Here's what's been fixed/changed/added as of today. If you've reported a bug and it's not listed here, that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not going to fix it, or that I haven't received your report. This is just what has been accomplished so far. (In addition to daily work on the next release of Robocomm) I realize that posting this list may seem like a bit of a tease, but I want to let everyone know that I am committed to a nice and clean 1.1 release, and I think this is the best way to show it right now. At this time, I am not accepting any more beta testers. Thank you for not requesting access to the betas at this time. Also, as you know if you followed the long haul to 1.0's release, I try to avoid putting dates on expected release times so please do not ask when, because I honestly don't know. The best answer I can give is that I'm really pounding away on it and this is my #1 priority. Regards, Dan Parsons ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RoboMail 1.1ß1 Changes as of 6/2/93... o Removed the much-maligned vertical scroll bar from the message viewing screen. This will provide an unobstructed view of 79 column messages. To scroll up and down using the mouse, click on the lines above and below the message text window. o Fixed problems when specifying a BBS ID in conjunction with the /e command line parameter. o Fixed "DOS Error 31" problems. o Fixed "S_NUM" problems. o Fixed incorrect quote initials when using AlT-Q in the internal editor. o RoboMail will now automatically add a space to the end of your defined quote characters if they are three characters long. People using the default "-> " will not get this. o In RM 1.0, when using the internal editor, re-editing an outbox message was placing quoting characters before every line of the ORIGINAL.TXT file. They have been removed. o Changed the default quoting characters to "FL>", which uses the initials of the person being responded to. o Fixed problems when ESCaping from the pop-up assistant menu with a special sort or query active. o When re-editing an outbox message with the internal editor, RoboMail would preface each line in the "original" message with the defined quoting characters. Fixed. o Made some attempts to speed up the internal editor. I think I may have succeeded. Please let me know if it still seems excessively sluggish to you. o During export, messages were getting the system date and time rather than the date and time they were saved. Fixed. o Added a "Q"uery key to the tagline manager. Uses the same search methods as in the other queries in the program. Shows a subset of just those tags matching the query after a very fast search. o Added a pop-up F10 pick list for all the query prompts in the system. The pick list allows you to add, edit and delete and can hold as many items as you care to put in it. o Clicking on the "Age", "Keep" or "Discard" options in the message header will now move you on to the next message after making the assignment. o Fixed problem that would cause the exit query for exporting to be skipped if all outbox messages were discarded or on hold and the only other outbox items were offline configuration requests. o Fixed code that could result in "problems" when importing individual messages larger than 32K. Previously, RoboMail would truncate the message at 32K. Now, the messages will be split during import when they exceed 32K. This means RoboMail can now import individual messages of *any* length. If it fits in a QWK, RoboMail will suck it in. o RM was not checking defined conference-specific alias names when determining if a message was "personal." Fixed. o RM will now display an error message instructing you to copy the message to the OutBox if you attempt to re-edit a Chron message. o Hitting "O" in the chron to copy a message to the OutBox was duplicating the tagline. Fixed. o Fixed odd message format behavior that would occur when the following steps were done in order: 1 - Recall a rep 2 - Go to OutBox and display recalled message 3 - Hit Alt-E to edit the message header 4 - Select the Re-Edit button o The main tagline configuration field would allow you to leave it blank. Input is now required. o Added code to the rebuild routines to verify the file attachment data as well. o Fixed invalid "Unable to open standard dictionary" error message that was preventing people from importing words into their standard dictionaries. o You can now create a reply to the recipient of a message by pressing ALT-T (I'm open for suggestions for a better key assignment) o Added some more quick merge macros. Here's a summary. Snip this and assign it to a merge key if you want to see them in action: Summary of RoboMail 1.1 quick merge macros: Current Date: {date} {DATE} Current Time: {time} {TIME} Day of Week: {dow} {DOW} Original to: {to} {TO} Original from: {from} {FROM} Original Date: {msgdate} {MSGDATE} Original Time: {time} {MSGTIME} Subject: {subject} {SUBJECT} Conf #: {confnum} {CONFNUM} Conf Name: {confname} {CONFNAME} BBS ID: {bbsid} {BBSID} BBS Name: {bbsname} {BBSNAME} # # # --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (21:30) Number: 2975 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> There is one feature I have not gotten to work, and that is FV> the "sending copies" command. I checked page 40. I cannot find FV> the COPIES button. Is it "hidden" some- where? I am using it FV> with the mouse, so I should be able to click on GM│ Frank, it's in the Address Header (also assessable for direct GM│ editing via ALT-E) right hand side under "Re-Edit" then just GM│ follow the bouncing ball. FV> I am sorry, but I still have not got that to work. The COPY.FRM FV> file is in the robomail directory, but when I read a message and FV> press Alt-E, nothing happens. My apologies, Frank. As makes sense, ALT-E only works while viewing a OutBox message. FV> Now I found something different, and that is when I have FV> written a reply to a message, than the header comes up, and I FV> have then the choice to save it, re-edit, or copy or cancel FV> it, but that seems different from what is explained on page FV> 40, isn't it? Frank. I think I see what happened. Actually, Copying Messages is on page 39 _but_ it follows the instructions for Accessing the Address Book. So I bet you were all over the Address Book looking for how to copy a message. In any case, I do notice it is not in the OnLine Help and probably should be included. I'll pass it onto Dan. Frank, you do get around <g>. I also see that your a Tessie user. Regards, -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (01:32) Number: 2976 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: JASON KOLLER Subj: Joining! Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hello! Terminal Velocity is proud to join the RIME Network and this conference! --- * PostLink(tm) v1.06 TERMVEL (#1494) : <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:42) Number: 2977 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MATT KLECZEWSKI From: RON HOSSACK Subj: Offlien Readers Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MK> Blue Wave MK> --------- MK> Good, but I like flexibility, and Blue Wave was a little lax in MK> configuration options. We'll add another reader to your list later this week ... MikeMayl ... the price is right in the neighborhood of OFFLINE ... the doc's should be done this weekend and I'll send it out to those who would like to either request it via RIME or they can freq it from me. --- * MikeMayl v1.0 * This tagline stolen by MikeMayl! ■ BCSUTI Version 1.0 * Solid Rock BBS, Riverside, CA (909)785-9176 HST DS * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SOLIDROCK (#812) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:45) Number: 2978 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PATRICK LEE From: RON HOSSACK Subj: Qwk Products List 2/ Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL> Spitfire <built-in> PL> JetMail 1.14 D. J. Chuang Patrick ... JetMail is up to 1.15ß5 --- * MikeMayl v1.0 * This tagline stolen by MikeMayl! ■ BCSUTI Version 1.0 * Solid Rock BBS, Riverside, CA (909)785-9176 HST DS * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SOLIDROCK (#812) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (13:58) Number: 2979 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: PEG COCHENOUR Subj: MAIL READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> PC> PB>Can anybody suggest a mail reader. I've downloaded OLX and 1st Reader. PC> PB>Is Robomail something to explore. I want to access internet FV> FV>If you want a high caliber reader, try RoboMail. It is in my opinion FV>the very best one can try out. You have 21 days for a non-crippled Sorry, but *I* wasn't the one who asked this question ... someone with the initials PB did so, and *I* responded to his/her message. The original is not in my mail packet anymore, so I cannot re-direct this message to that user. I am perfectly happy with my Speed Read as I told PB. Thanks for the info anyhow. Peg --- ■ SPEED 1.30 #1269 ■ I can see clearly now my brain is gone... * φ BEC BBS φ Springfield, IL φ (217) 585-1279 V.32bis φ * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BECBBS (#282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (13:58) Number: 2980 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: PEG COCHENOUR Subj: Speed & Cross Posting Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DJ> How do you cross post messages using Speed 1.3? Use <control>F to forward a message to another conference or user. Peg --- ■ SPEED 1.30 #1269 ■ Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip. * φ BEC BBS φ Springfield, IL φ (217) 585-1279 V.32bis φ * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BECBBS (#282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (22:07) Number: 2981 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MAURICE HAYMAN From: STEVE MCNAMARA Subj: .QWK TO ASCII TEXT FILE Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MH> Try QWK2TXT 4.10 3/28/92 MH> Not a mail reader, just a conversion program. >--- > * Eagles I'll start looking for it, Thanks. Steve --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Never trust ale from a God-fearing people. Quark * φ BEC BBS φ Springfield, IL φ (217) 585-1279 V.32bis φ * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BECBBS (#282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:23) Number: 2982 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF>When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and time --- I'm not sure, but I'll put the date and time of when I wrote this. Compare it with what SLMR is reporting. I would think the date in SLMR is the date the message was uploaded to the board. (I will also upload this message today). «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/08/93 08:18 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:23) Number: 2983 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PHYLLIS BLACK From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: MAIL READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PC>PB>Is Robomail something to explore. I want to access internet --- Robomail is definitely something to explore if you want a database reader. It has a built in editor and spell checker. You can set up an address book with all your favorite peoples names, BBS names, and conferences to reach them in and routing instructions. RM does have **something** to do with Internet, however, I know very little about Internet so I can't help you there. RM also has folders that you can save special messages to. For example, all the messages on your favorite hobby or tips and tricks for your favorite PC program can be saved in separate files that you create. If you're not an semi-experienced PC user, RM will take just a little longer to learn, but believe me it is worth it! If you try it, at least give it a week or two. I tried it for a day and erased it from my hard drive, and vowed to never use it again. I hated it. Then, just before I was going to register Speed, I decided to try it again. I'm glad I did, because I registered RM instead. It's wonderful. I hadn't given it a fair evaluation. Like I mentioned, RM has a built in editor (no need to buy another one here) and it has a built in Spell checker (no need to buy one here), and on top of that, it has excellent support from the author, Dan Parsons. RM is only $35 to register, while Speed, **WITHOUT** an editor and **WITHOUT** a spell checker is $25. Yeah, Jim Smith offers a reader too for use with Speed, but it's an additional $25. I'm not saying this is bad, because the editor is a stand alone editor (you can use it with other things besides Speed). I'm just saying RM does **MUCH** more than Speed and costs less. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/08/93 08:34 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (12:23) Number: 2984 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL CRASHING. Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Is anyone having problems with Robomail crashing unexpectedly? I'm running it through Windows 3.1 in enhanced mode. I have had it crash three times, not in a row, but over the period of my evaluation. It has not caused any major problems (i.e. loss of mail) since RM seems to write just about everything as it is done (which I like). Anyway, I've heard talk that RM access 50k of the EMS page frame. First, I have no idea what this means, except that it has something to do with memory. I would just like to know how to alleviate this considering I run it through Windows and will continue to do so. My PIF settings are: KB req. 520k desired 640k XMS req. 0k limit 640k EMS req. 520k limit 1024k EMS memory locked. Background off. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/08/93 08:21 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:10) Number: 2985 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> I had to stop calling some local boards here which pumped me around CP>(ZIP) every single days with 20-30 new bulletins, Quote a day, Who's --- Although that is annoying to have to download, you can just delete them. Robomail will allow you to delete that info. You should also be able to tell the mail door (on your BBS) to EXclude that stuff. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/09/93 08:54 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 7 ■ <-- Now this is what a mail reader should be! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:10) Number: 2986 of 3255 (Refer# 2927) To: GARTH MCKAY From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM> them). Packing purges these deleted messages from the database GM> then packs the file. Depending on how large your message --- I've since realized that RM is actually a database, like dBASE in a way, only it's use is for messages only. That has helped me understand the concept of packing, queries etc. Thanks. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/09/93 08:02 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 7 ■ <-- Now this is what a mail reader should be! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:10) Number: 2987 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL PROBLEM Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DL>It should be in this file as follows: SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0. I've had n DL>speed difference, and it functions with greater stability than even DL>SLMR. --- Is this a valid option for one running RM through Windows? Or would it not have an effect on RM? Or is this SET thing for users of QEMM only? I don't use QEMM. I haven't had a big problem with stability either, but... Thanks. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/09/93 08:59 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 7 ■ <-- Now this is what a mail reader should be! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:10) Number: 2988 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PAUL BELL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: SILVER XPRESS - HELP! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PB>is going on, as I am looking for a good offline mail door/reader for --- Robomail. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/09/93 15:43 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 7 ■ "I'm Having A Ball Doing Nothing At All" * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:10) Number: 2989 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: TUTORIAL.QWK DELETED, OK? Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I erase my tutorial.qwk packet from Robomail. I hope that is not a "no, no." I don't have any need for it though. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/09/93 13:58 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 7 ■ "I'm Having A Ball Doing Nothing At All" * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-08-93 (23:36) Number: 2990 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOHN WOODSTOCK From: DAVID COOPER Subj: QWK interface for NVN Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JW|What is the "National VideoTex Network" ?? NVN is a online service of the CompuServe, Prodigy, GEnie variety; however, at this time it is much, much smaller. Their basic services are $5.95 per month flat fee. Their premium services are billed hourly (I believe at $5.95 per hour). There are about 100 free Bulletin boards and other services. Give them a try...They offer a money back guarantee for the 1st month. You can sign up by dialing 1-800-336-9092 with your modem. When asked for who referred you, type DCOOPER3. ...david --- ■ OLX 3.02 * PC-OHIO - The Best BBS in America, Cleveland, OH 216-381-3320 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 PCOHIO (#1869) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (00:59) Number: 2991 of 3255 (Refer# 2944) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: FRANK VLAMINGS«═── 6/09/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/09/1993 │No I never have used Brief. I heard a lot of good things about it, and │that also goes for Boxer. They both have some nice features, and the │names have been mentioned a number of times in the Qedit conference. │I have Kedit, and that is also a very powerful text editor. It is too └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ I have found that many editor are easy for new user, but QEdit is faster for the expert as you can send the command w/o having to select from menu's. * Qwkit 1.0b * To a friend's house the road is never long... --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (01:04) Number: 2992 of 3255 (Refer# 2947) To: JIM HANOIAN From: CHAU PHAM Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: JIM HANOIAN«═── 6/08/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/10/1993 │It looks and acts a whole lot better now <hehe>. It does need │updating, though... no matter how good it is. └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ I agree that it needs upgrading.. I have poured sugar mixed with vinegar on Kip sometime <G>. * Qwkit 1.0b * To avoid seeing a fool, break your mirror. --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (03:25) Number: 2993 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL ADDRESS BOOK Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DJ> Has anyone else had problems with Robomails NOTES function in DJ> the ADDRESS BOOK? Today I pulled up the address book, added a DJ> name, added a note to that name and then noticed that three DJ> other entries I had made previously no longer had their notes! DJ> I then reentered them and each time I had to do it TWICE DJ> before the note would appear in the NOTE screen in the ADDRESS DJ> book. Anyone else notice this? Daniel, sounds like your Address Book database file somehow got twisted. You may want to delete ADDRESS.DBF and ADDRESS.CMX. Then restart and let RoboMail rebuild these files. While, you will loose the information in the address book continuing to add info to the database if it is indeed corrupted will eventually cause you to do the above in any case. Let me know if it continues to be a problem. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (23:46) Number: 2994 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: BARBARA ANTHONY Subj: TAGLINES & SLMR Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I would like to add a larger collection of taglines to SLMR and was wondering how to do it. I downloaded Tagline Express 2.1? or is it 2.0. Anyhow I dled it and copied it into my SLMR directory, and that did not work. Do I need an earlier version of this or what. Also is there any thing better out there in the way of off line readers. I have had problems with my SLMR, I'm not compatible with it it seems. Barb RBBS-UTI v3.0ß: by Bob Snyder - (703)323-6423/1782 HST --- * Crossroads BBS - Woodbridge, VA (703) 590-0049 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 CROSSRDS (#603) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (16:38) Number: 2995 of 3255 (Refer# 2970) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ Yup! just take sometime to memorize few basic commands then everything CP│ will be nailed. That's the ticket. Grrrin. Thanks .... :-))) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Thursday, June 10, at 08:42 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (16:38) Number: 2996 of 3255 (Refer# 2971) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ This is what MegaRead needs to improve as soon as possible. If Kip Compton will give this summer the needed support and upgrade MegaReader, than it would be really nice. I am sure by now, how knows that competition lurks on the horizon, and if the support is "lacking" he will lose his faithful users. You can only expect so much from the author, and for the user's patience. CP│ Thanks for the information and I'll try it sometime today to see how it CP│ handles this kind of problem. BTW, all the DATE/TIME of all Conf/Subj got CP│ messed up, and I keep this .QWK packet to test new reader. Also try for instance to use F3 to make up the address book, and then when you use it you just are on one message you want to forward to someone else. You press Alt-F and here is the screen with the names blank, then press F-10 and here is your address book, and pick a name from it, just place the cursor on the name, and then you have it all filled out. Routing of messages in Rime is very simple, since it takes it from the message itself, and places the ->#### on the start of the message. Don't need to worry about it. I like the address book a lot. All you do when you have it empty, press the Ins key and fill out the name, and press F-1 when you want the other information, such as which BBS etc. Now from the address book is where you can cross-post messa- ges. I use it all the time. Real powerful, and now programming on your part required. CP│ Another neat feature. MegaRead doesn't do mass murder, and we use one CP│ of the macros like this to do it. CP│ <AltS>$BBS:8<Enter> ; save to text file using BBSID as filename CP│ <^PgDn><F8><^K>w$CONF:8<Enter> ; W/O header and use Conf. as filename That is not well implemented in RoboMail. Wish that one could put some macros in the program, and I believe he has it included in the upcom- ing v1.10 and we are all looking at that. Dan hasn't set any date, and some said it is ready to be issued. .... Give it a good try, Chau. I am sure in the beginning it looks strange, and if you'll do like me, you lay it aside, and take later a second look. That is where I went wrong. I picked it up later and went thru it again, and said to myself, this is indeed a good reader I also sug- gest you print out the 60 pages or so. I keep it next to the computer, and then can page thru it that way. Good luck and bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Thursday, June 10, at 08:56 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (16:38) Number: 2997 of 3255 (Refer# 2975) To: GARTH MCKAY From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> I am sorry, but I still have not got that to work. The COPY.FRM FV> file is in the robomail directory, but when I read a message and FV> press Alt-E, nothing happens. GM│ My apologies, Frank. As makes sense, ALT-E only works while viewing GM│ a OutBox message. Ah... that is it.... :)) As long as I know.... grrrrin. GM│ Frank. I think I see what happened. Actually, Copying Messages GM│ is on page 39 _but_ it follows the instructions for Accessing GM│ the Address Book. So I bet you were all over the Address Book GM│ looking for how to copy a message. GM│ In any case, I do notice it is not in the OnLine Help and probably GM│ should be included. I'll pass it onto Dan. Thanks that would help. I know, that this reader is very complex, and it is easy to oversight by the author, a small thing like this. I guess it appears, when a new user like myself don't quite get it right. GM│ Frank, you do get around <g>. I also see that your a Tessie user. Oh yes. And I love Tessie. I am now also getting Mel Hulse a friend I met in the Qedit conference very much interested in RoboMail, and he is going to evaluate it. He made me mad about Tessie, and I went for it, while Mel has been a beta tester for the past two years, and I regist- ered or actually upgraded from Qedit, and now I told him so much about RoboMail, that he also got exited about RoboMail. Mel is a darn good programmer, and knows his business. Thanks for your help. Have a nice day. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Thursday, June 10, at 01:20 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (14:05) Number: 2998 of 3255 (Refer# 2923) To: MARTIN SCHILDKRET From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF> When you see a date and time in a message, is that the date and SF> time it was written, or the date and time it was uploaded? Or it SF> is sometimes MS> If you are using the QMAIL door it depends on the option you have MS> selected in the configuration of QMAIL..... I got a message in the QMAIL conference (on the Running Board it was called READERS - the SLMR conf there is called OLX here) that said that. Lyle Giese said that Markmail always uses (used - does it still exist?) the BBS time and date. QMail also did it that way , but he said. he was told "Sparky" (the author?) fixed that problem later. But it also supports an option to either use the BBS date or the reader's date. Q. What is the reader's date/time? Is that one date for all the messages in a *.REP packet, or is there a way to have every difefernt mesages have a different date and time, or it is sometimes like that with some mail readers, but not with others? He also said QMail checked for 01/01/80 - figured that was an error and replaces it. The 01/0180 date can cause trouble on some BBSs. I'm not sure where. Maybe WILDCAT The message base may be packed according to message date and time, not order. When sent ouyt on PCRelay, the 01-01-80 date resulted in the date being set to the current date on every BBS it went to, so that it could look like a message was replied to before it was sent. --- * File-Link BBS (212)-627-1901 / 100 nodes / V.32bis * PostLink(tm) v1.06 FILELINK (#1604) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (07:51) Number: 2999 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: STEVE MCNAMARA From: DANIEL NOTOWITZ Subj: .QWK to ASCII text file Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) On 06-04-93 at 18:41, STEVE MCNAMARA wrote ALL in the OFFLINE MAIL Conference about .QWK to ASCII text file SM▌Does anybody know of a QWK mail reader that will write all the messages SM▌of a .QWK mail packet out to one big ASCII file? I'm thinking of doing SM▌this then running the ASCII file through Monolog's SAYFILE program and SM▌recording the output to listen to during long commutes. I know that Deluxe² will allow you to save individual messages and that 1stReader will let you flag messages to save to text files, but what you want is a utility like CONFSAVE by Bob Woodard, QWKTXT by Jeffrey Foy, or QWKDUMP by Geoffrey Sy. CONFSAVE will let you convert whole conferences to text files. QWKTXT will convert the entire MESSAGES.DAT file to MESSAGES.TXT determining the compression method automatically. QWKDUMP will convert all the messages to a text file or by conference. All these utilities and probably most if not all the QWK mail readers can be found on The Lunatic Fringe BBS -- (214) 235-5288. Daniel Notowitz R/O; ->282 => Entered on 06-08-93 at 18:28. --- ■ 1st 1.10 #25bt ■ 1stReader: Dance with the one that brung ya. * Memphis PC Users Group - Memphis, Tn (901)368-1764 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 MPCUG (#368) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:03) Number: 3000 of 3255 (Refer# 2929) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> CP│ I was surprised about his age, and especially his programming style FV> CP│ which surprised me the most. FV> FV> Will it shouldn't come as a surprise. His parents are lawyers and Kip FV> is a young student at school. I don't know, how old he is. I have FV> never met nor spoken to him, but one of the sysops has talked to him FV> one day. Don't know more about him. He is something like 20 or 21 now. He wrote MegaReader, MegaDoor and PCRelay (RIME's last software) and PostLink all before he could legally drink. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (20:03) Number: 3001 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> I had to stop calling some local boards here which pumped me around CP> 100K (ZIP) every single days with 20-30 new bulletins, Quote a day, CP> Who's birthday today.... etc. These things won't effect my message CP> base, but may effect RoboMail's (wrong guess ?). I always thought that Mega should maintain the latest of each bulletin in the database as a message. In other words, each bulletin is a message from the BBS to you in a conference called BULLETIN with a subject of whatever. When you get a new one from the BBS, then automatically kill the old one. Of course, since they would be "messages", you could kill them yourself. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (01:07) Number: 3002 of 3255 (Refer# 2946) To: DAVID LEBLANC From: MARTIN SCHILDKRET Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DL│The date & time in the message header is put there by the offline reader │so it is always the date & time it was typed. I presume if the computer Some mail doors such as QMAIL have the option to use the date/time that the .REP packet was uploaded. This is the option I use in QMAIL so all my replies have a common date/time when they were uploaded to my BBS. * OLX 2.2 * CATDISK----The Very Best----Try It You'll Like It.. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (01:08) Number: 3003 of 3255 (Refer# 2998) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: MARTIN SCHILDKRET Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF│Lyle Giese said that Markmail always uses (used - does it still exist?) │the BBS time and date. QMail also did it that way , but he said. he was │told "Sparky" (the author?) fixed that problem later. But it also │supports an option to either use the BBS date or the reader's date. MarkMail I am not familiar with. But QMAIL indeed dies support both date/time methods. Either the time from the reader or the time the .REP packet was uploaded to the BBS. SF│Q. What is the reader's date/time? Is that one date for all the messages │in a *.REP packet, or is there a way to have every difefernt mesages │have a different date and time, or it is sometimes like that with some │mail readers, but not with others? My reader OLX 2.2 puts the time and date I replied to each individual message. Getting the time and date from the system clock. So if you use the readers date/time it will probably have the same date unless it takes you more than one day to answer all the messages. The time would be different for each replied message. Unless of course you could answer two messages in less than 59 seconds <<gg>>. SF│He also said QMail checked for 01/01/80 - figured that was an error and This I do not know. * OLX 2.2 * How Did I Get Here, And Have I Been Here For Long ?..... --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (01:09) Number: 3004 of 3255 (Refer# 2961) To: GARY PETERSEN From: MARTIN SCHILDKRET Subj: SILVER XPRESS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GP│Sure, the Xpress Support BBS, in Leisure City, Florida, is at: GP│ 1:135/382 Xpress Support Cente 1-305-248-7815 9600 │ Hector Santos Leisure City FL CM,XA,HST,V32 Thanks Gary I again d/l it from my local board so I could get the BBS number from the docs. Called on Sunday and picked up both version 3.02 and the color configuration utility. Once again I appreciate your help in this..... * OLX 2.2 * Chelsea: Dad. Meet my new boy friend, Rush. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (19:48) Number: 3005 of 3255 (Refer# 2964) To: DANE BEKO From: DAN LLOYD Subj: SPEED IS REGISTERED! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >DB ∙-> around. In RoboMail's case, almost everything is implemented >DB ∙-> already. With Speed, you're left waiting. >DB ∙Different design philosophies here. RoboMail is nice but not for me. >DB ∙You like it and hopefully will register it. That's what shareware's all Chew tagline before swallowing. :-) >DB ∙about. I like Jim's approach to implementing features. There aren't >DB ∙many bugs in his ßeta versions. SPEED v1.00 didn't have as many >DB ∙problems as RM v1.00 did, in terms of folks being able to get it up and All the problems I've had with RoboMail were in Speed Reader when I tested version 1.3 of it, but RoboMail does not have all the problems of Speed. Speed 1.3 had 1/2 the functionality RoboMail has now in 1.0. And bugs! Speed Reader should advertise itself as bug enhanced. MS DOS 6.0 and Windows users will flock to it then. Say you store more messages than Speed can handle per conference (about 2200 vs. Robo's unlimited), what happens? Go ahead, give it a try. :-) --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ <<<<------------------My lucky number! * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (19:58) Number: 3006 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JIM HANOIAN From: MIKE BARON Subj: RoboMail problem Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) »» Not too bad... still, did you follow the QEMM exception process? They »» give some good tips at resolving the conflicts. No I didn't, but the error hasn't happened again. What is the exception process? Maybe I need to pay more attention to the screen when these problems arise. <g> --- ■ RM 1.0 00562 ■ Opportunity knocked...and I was in the shower. * No Anchovies PC * Ashtabula OH * 216-466-1151 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NAPCOHIO (#803) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (19:59) Number: 3007 of 3255 (Refer# 2956) To: PATRICK LEE From: MIKE BARON Subj: RoboMail problem Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) »» HyperDisk is great. Yes, I am loading the cache in the CONFIG.SYS »» file. I increased the cache to 2 megs, no noticeable increase in Robomail. I do agree that Hyperdisk is great. Haven't had a conflict with it yet, unlike every other cache I've tried... »» With 4 Mb of RAM, you should be able to set aside 1 Mb for cache and »» still give RoboMail enough EMS/XMS to work with. I'll have to play around with Robomail's setup, I'm not sure how I'm using EMS/XMS. Thanks! --- ■ RM 1.0 00562 ■ I got free checking at BCCI! * No Anchovies PC * Ashtabula OH * 216-466-1151 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NAPCOHIO (#803) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (23:36) Number: 3008 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHRIS PRIEDE From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM> Here's what happens. When you delete messages they still remain GM> in RoboMail's database file (although you can no longer access GM> them). Packing purges these deleted messages from the database GM> then packs the file. CP> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by CP> deleted messages whenever possible. At least, it should if it CP> is properly designed. Packing is still recommended, but less CP> often. Chris, I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. To convince yourself check your ROBOMAIL.DBV file before entering Robomail or right after you have imported new mail. Then while in Robomail delete a bunch of messages wait for the smiley face indicator to terminate. Now exit RoboMail and check the size of the ROBOMAIL.DBV. You will notice that the file size hasn't changed. Moreover, if you were to look within this file you'd also notice the messages you have deleted are still in there. This is not the case when you pack the database. At that point the messages are purged and the space reclaimed. === As far as the design issue you mention. I don't think it would be the best of designs if while reading messages the program allowed you to also perform an operation on that same file such as purging messages and packing. I'm sure you'd get a nicely mangled database file <g>. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ The Road Not Taken, Taken. * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (23:36) Number: 3009 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -= Dan in a message to Daniel Juarez on 6/10/93 you wrote =- DJ> Is it **necessary** to pack the Robomail database once in a DJ> while? I had to pack it once so far because RM crashed. Is DJ> that the only reason I would **have to** pack it, or is it DJ> recommended that it be done on a regular basis for maintenance DJ> reasons? DL> For reasons of file size and performance, it's a good idea to DL> pack. You don't have to. Robomail cleans and consolidates DL> data in the background for you (just look for the . (happy DL> face if that character does not show) in the upper right hand DL> corner)). I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. To convince yourself check your ROBOMAIL.DBV file before entering Robomail or right after you have imported new mail. Then while in Robomail delete a bunch of messages wait for the smiley face indicator to terminate. Now exit RoboMail and check the size of the ROBOMAIL.DBV. You will notice that the file size hasn't changed. Moreover, if you were to look within this file you'd also notice the messages you have deleted are still in there. This is not the case when you pack the database. At that point the messages are purged and the space reclaimed. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (00:02) Number: 3010 of 3255 (Refer# 2957) To: PATRICK LEE From: JOHN EWIN Subj: Session Manager Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL>Pat Hart told me that he limited the conference display routine to only PL>work with numbers < 1,000 ... Hmm ... Apparently, maybe he meant 1,000 PL>actual conferences. Evidentally. <G> He's told me that it will run out of memory if you actually have 2,000 confs., but it can handle #s that high. One board (defunct now) I was on carried a whole LOT of nets, and each net was in chuncks of 256 or 512 conf. number blocks... I read confs. in the 1,900 range A-OK, but there were not 2,000 ACTUAL confs. defined. --- ■ SM 1.06 *0020 ■ My photographic mind is still in its latent state. * The Ground Zero BBS ■ Seal Beach, CA ■ 310-430-0079 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GROUNDZERO (#212) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (14:21) Number: 3011 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: BOB OFFICER Subj: BlueWave RE:s Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Is there a way to force BlueWAve to turn off the RE: prefix on subject headeds.... This is a pain... maybe the DEfault should be changed. The RE: makes threads hard to follow! Bob * SLMR 2.1a * I am a victim of circumstance! --- * The Silhouetter bbs, Stockton, Ca, 1-209-472-0843 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SILHOUET (#5111) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (10:43) Number: 3012 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MATT KLECZEWSKI From: STEVE MCNAMARA Subj: .QWK to ASCII text file Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MK>There was a program on one of the CDs here called QWK2TXT, I'll download >it and let you know how things work out. Thanks, Matt. I've found a semi-solution. I use SLMR and can select a conference to 'save' the messages to. I just pick the conferences I'm interested in and save them to a single ASCII file. It's clunky, but it works. Steve --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ On a clear disk you can seek forever * φ BEC BBS φ Springfield, IL φ (217) 585-1279 V.32bis φ * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BECBBS (#282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (23:11) Number: 3013 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PATRICK LEE From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Subj: Date/time stamping Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL> Every BBS program worth the money should allow message base packing PL> based on date. PCBPack does! Doesn't the order uploaded make more sense? Especially if the date can be the date written, but not posted. What should count in the seniority on the BBS, not the date it was written. --- * File-Link BBS (212)-627-1901 / 100 nodes / V.32bis * PostLink(tm) v1.06 FILELINK (#1604) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3014 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> │I had last used Mega, and I wanted to do more of a live test... CP> CP> Welcome back! and here is the PostLink routing macro just for you CP> duke! Thanks! I needed that... Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3015 of 3255 (Refer# 2943) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> I found one bug, I do not like, and that is the printing of a message. FV> If you just pint a message, that is less then one page long, it prints FV> OK, ad I find that acceptable. I am using a DeskJet 500, and it is I can see where that would bother you. Can you save the message to a text file, and then print it using an editor? That could be a good temporary fix until Dan gets to your recommendations. I went ballistic with the reformatting which pulled the second space from the end of a sentence. There were a few other odds and ends, but it is a young program and needs the benefit of giving it a bit of time to mature. For a first release, it is very impressive. FV> like page 1 of 6 or what ever you want there to be printed, or nothing FV> at all. I made my own programs, and they look very nice. Some of it FV> require some little routines, but an excellent programmer like Dan FV> Parsons shouldn't see that as an obstacle in the programming.... Yeah... I do Clipper, Fox and dBase, and I know what you mean. Some of the things that have been mentioned are very good ideas. It is difficult to think of everything yourself and program at the same time... you need the feedback, and you can make it happen on the screen. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3016 of 3255 (Refer# 2944) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> I have Kedit, and that is also a very powerful text editor. It is too FV> strange to me. It has some very strange commands, and I cannot get FV> used to it. Have tried several attempts, and the program also runs FV> under OS/2. It also has a very powerful macro language, and is super FV> powerful. To get a file, you press Alt-x and you work from the command FV> line, using the home key. It is not what I wanted, and have tried it. Too weird for me! Alt-X is bye-bye in my book... Most of the power editors allow keyboard reconfiguration. Sounds like an immediate need there. FV> JH│ QEdit seemed to be the perfect editor for offline readers... do FV> JH│ the changes in TSE make it any better for that purpose? FV> FV> Oh yes. It is a pity there is no demo fro it, but once you have tried FV> Tessie, than you will never go back to Qedit. You find Qedit running FV> too slow. You probably say: Too Slow??? Well there are a number of I've debated sending away for it... I might do it yet... Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3017 of 3255 (Refer# 2931) To: RAY JOYCE From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) RJ> * but in ordinary circumstances, the header merely repeats the data RJ> * which exists in the real header, right? So why put it in? In my RJ> * estimation, it isn't quite as bad as flashy boxes, but close... RJ> RJ> Exactly. Sometimes the header info, tagline, tail line, boxes, RJ> etc. all but obliterate a one or two line message. <G> Kip should have had the quote-box defaulted to off <grin>. I have argued, though, that the boxes don't add much to QWK packets since the repeated identical characters zip up to virtually nothing. Even so, it does have some overhead, and does add to the visual clutter. Anyway, you have brought up one of my beefs... the multiple taglines, tearlines, door-lines, etc, etc, etc. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3018 of 3255 (Refer# 2972) To: JEFF JENNINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: OLX Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JJ> I would like to use my meg of memory, but there is some kind of JJ> conflict so that the arrow keys turn into the numbers (the grey keys at JJ> that!), the numbers above the letters turn into !@#$% and the letters JJ> are all CAPITAL. Hitting the left shift key disengages. JJ> This happens regardless of what TSR's I have loaded. I screws up JJ> without any loaded at all. I have a 386sx and got the extra ram put in JJ> about a year ago. You have the classic symptoms of INT9 problems. There are fixes out for this problem... look for files called INT9FIX or FIXSHIFT. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (20:56) Number: 3019 of 3255 (Refer# 2992) To: CHAU PHAM From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> I agree that it needs upgrading.. I have poured sugar mixed with CP> vinegar on Kip sometime <G>. Maybe you should get a gun instead <just joking!> Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-10-93 (15:19) Number: 3020 of 3255 (Refer# 2951) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: OFFLINE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV>I agree with you. If your resources are limited, like possibly on a FV>laptop, then you must look at a reader, that can work with limited FV>memory and disk space. RM may not be what you want. It is a large I've settled on SLMR for the laptop and Speed for the desktop... ────════ Matt Kleczewski ════──── RelayNet 1825 CircuitNet 414000 CoSysOp BPA BBS (414)-565-4087 300-2400 BOCAModem 2400I, MNP 2-5, V.42bis --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ ^ This side up * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (19:11) Number: 3021 of 3255 (Refer# 3011) To: BOB OFFICER From: SCOTT TALBERT Subj: BlueWave RE:s Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) BO>Is there a way to force BlueWAve to turn off the RE: prefix on subject >headeds.... This is a pain... maybe the DEfault should be changed. I believe there is somewhere in the config... --- ■ 1st 1.11 #1678 ■ Scott Talbert ->1000 * Main Frame BBS * Online since 1984 * 8 lines * 1-301-654-2554 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 MAINFRAM (#1000) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (11:20) Number: 3022 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JAMES NUCKOLLS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: WinQwk Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: JAMES NUCKOLLS«═── 6/10/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/13/1993 │I sant off for my reg. copy of winqwk; but 3 days later got my letter i │sent them saying that they moved. If anyone know how to get in touch with │the maker of winqwk please leave me message. │thanx RW │--- WinQwk 1.30 #0 └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ I have heard that the author had hard drive crashed and lost the code, so there will be no newer version than WinQWK v2.0B. The author is now working on a different reader (forgot the name). * Qwkit 1.0b * May Ed McMahon bend the boards on your doorstep. --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:41) Number: 3023 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOSEPH TYSON From: JOE NEGRON Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: 06-29-93 (22:40) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-10-93 18:26, Joseph Tyson uttered the following to Joe Negron: JN> Yes, it crashed alot on me too, especially in DESQview. JT> I run it under DESQview without any crashes. Windoze too. Different > strokes (machines). I guess. I will try it again with v1.1 is released. --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Sun, 06-13-1993-- ... The current death rate? One per person, of course. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:41) Number: 3024 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: JOE NEGRON Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-10-93 23:35, Dan Lloyd uttered the following to Joe Negron: DL> I use DV too. Make sure your have the /OP0 switch set. Otherwise, > RoboMail presumes it's okay to use 50k of your EMS page frame! > ... JN∙ Um, shouldn't RoboMail be "smart" enough to know that it's running under ∙ DESQview and disable this behaviour? DL> That would be true if DV used EMS, but it doesn't (though it does make > it possible for other programs to use it). In a DV environment, with > multiple programs running, if just one is using EMS, that creates the > need for the page frame, and consequently the conflict. If, however, > no other program uses the page frame, then RM is actually doing the > user a favor, using otherwise dormant memory, taking advantage of > directly addressable memory, making for faster performance. Hmmm...well, then it sounds like RoboMail ought to use a more compatible method of accessing auxiliary memory. To expect the typical offline reader user to know how to do this, without (I assume) even a warning or recommendation in the documentation, is unrealistic. JN∙ ... If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. DL> Great tagline! Thanks. DL> ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ Speed Reader - see entry under tranquilizer Not so bad yourself. <g> --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Sun, 06-13-1993-- ... Honey, I ARJ'ed the kids. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (10:52) Number: 3025 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHRIS PRIEDE From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> One is a PcBoard BBS and it splits articles. The other doesn't, but -> it seems I got lucky and all articles I imported were below 32k. You must be very lucky. I get a few > 32 Kb message just about everyday in the 40 or so groups I follow. Anyway, the point is moot now that the next version of RoboMail should split long messages to sizes it can handle. -> You get practically all the features of a database reader, without -> having a "real" database. Oh. I am more or less happy with RoboMail's "real" database it really does not matter too much to me. If you want to write such a program, go ahead! -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (10:52) Number: 3026 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHRIS PRIEDE From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail packing Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by deleted -> messages whenever possible. At least, it should if it is properly -> designed. Packing is still recommended, but less often. Of course it does. 8-) It even does background packing and cleaning of the database while you are doing other things like reading messages or writing replies! Of course, packing is always recommended on a regular basis just to make sure everything is cleaned up. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (19:53) Number: 3027 of 3255 (Refer# 2997) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM│ Frank, you do get around <g>. I also see that you're a GM│ Tessie user. FV> Oh yes. And I love Tessie. I am now also getting Mel Hulse a FV> friend I met in the Qedit conference very much interested in FV> RoboMail, and he is going to evaluate it. Yes, I've read many an informative post by Mel. I also use TSE as my editor for the mail reader. FV> I told him so much about RoboMail, that he also got exited FV> about RoboMail. Mel is a darn good programmer, and knows his FV> business. Great, I'd be interested to hear what he thinks. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (14:06) Number: 3028 of 3255 (Refer# 3002) To: MARTIN SCHILDKRET From: DAVID LEBLANC Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) When last we saw our heroes, Martin Schildkret said to David Leblanc: MS>DL│The date & time in the message header is put there by the offline re MS> │so it is always the date & time it was typed. I presume if the comp MS> Some mail doors such as QMAIL have the option to use the date/time MS> that the .REP packet was uploaded. This is the option I use in QMAIL MS> so all my replies have a common date/time when they were uploaded to MS> my BBS. Of course this makes perfect sense and did not occur to me. At the time of typing it is the date/time that is current and subject to change. )0,0( \o/ ····────════*David LeBlanc> ... I may not be perfect, but I am all I got! --- *OLX 3.02* * Hobby Shop BBS Worcester MA 508-752-2632 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 HOBBYSHOP (#5179) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (15:39) Number: 3029 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: NATHAN TAYLOR Subj: ROBOMAIL TWIT Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I would like to know if there is anyway to filter (twit) incoming mail based on subject or recipient, rather than just sender? I'm sure some of you have come upon subjects you don't even want to spend the time skipping over or people who you don't care to see messages from or to. If there isn't a way, could someone here be kind enough to forward my request for this feature to Dan (I don't get the RoboComm support conference). Thanks! /\/ate - Star Date 9552.16 ... Guts: putting the name "SYSOP" in your twit filter --- RBBS-UTI v3.0ß: * THE GRAPEVINE RBBS, NAPA, CA <ASP-BBS> (707) 257-2338, USR-DS * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NAPAVINE (#1338) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (16:33) Number: 3030 of 3255 (Refer# 2977) To: RON HOSSACK From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: Offlien Readers Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) RH> We'll add another reader to your list later this week ... MikeMayl RH> ... the price is right in the neighborhood of OFFLINE ... the doc's RH> should be done this weekend and I'll send it out to those who RH> would like to either request it via RIME or they can freq it RH> from me. I'd like to request it, please! ────════ Matt Kleczewski ════──── RelayNet 1825 CircuitNet 414000 CoSysOp BPA BBS (414)-565-4087 300-2400 BOCAModem 2400I, MNP 2-5, V.42bis --- ■ KingQWK 1.05 ■ Charlie, Borland wants Pascal with Good Taste. * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-11-93 (18:45) Number: 3031 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: Quick fix for MKQuoter Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hi folks. Due to the development of MKLynq, a Lap-Link like utility, I have halted development on MKQuoter. I know that MKQuoter is an excellent product, and until I have time to document the new version, the current version won't work. Therefore, I have made a "Unregistered" key file that will work: To do this, set up MKQuoter, then type MKQuoter /R <CR> At the command line. Enter in the following information: Serial Number:0 Your Name:UNREGISTERED Activation Code:6189 Note that UNREGISTERED MUST BE IN ALL CAPS! ────════ Matt Kleczewski ════──── RelayNet 1825 CircuitNet 414000 CoSysOp BPA BBS (414)-565-4087 300-2400 BOCAModem 2400I, MNP 2-5, V.42bis --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ There is always one more bug. * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (01:32) Number: 3032 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAVID MULLENS From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV>≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Tuesday, June 8, at 08:07 am DM│ How did you do the above using RoboMail. I assume you did not type it DM│ in. Thanks. I am using an external text editor called: TSE from Semware. I am using a macro to make this signature. A good friend of mine actually wrote the macro. I am learning the macro language. If you have never used Qedit, you are short changing yourself. The same people from Qedit wrote TSE, which is a much more powerful, and much faster editor than Qedit. Hope this helps. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Sunday, June 13, at 06:41 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (01:32) Number: 3033 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP│ I believe so, and hope that he will come up with something before it CP│ become history. Yes you are right with that. The reader I was using before I switched to RoboMail was badly enough not supported the way I would like it to be. I believe I have had sufficient patience with the author, but nothing came of it. Now that I am using RM, it is a whole different world. CP│ MegaRead doesn't have built-in Address Book, and option to paste the CP│ information to header (from macro). Not as nice as built-in, but we can CP│ use macro to emulate Address Book and HotKey to bring it up. It's as CP│ sample as. CP│ <^PgUp>$FROM:25<^PgUp><F7><F8><^K>wADDRESS.BK<Enter><^K>y I am sure given enough time, that Parsons of RM will include those features. Right now he is very busy writing v1.10 and he already has shown us all the new features we can expect to have. CP│ Later version may be but the current version can't meet my need yet. I CP│ cost_post between network/BBSID about daily, and paste information from CP│ different network/BBS/Conf etc.. Do you mean cross-post, rather than cost_post? If you mean cross-post you definitely can do that in RoboMail. I am doing it daily and it is beautiful. Hope this helps. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Sunday, June 13, at 06:47 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (06:31) Number: 3034 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ADAM ZION From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) AZ> JH║QEdit seemed to be the perfect editor for offline readers... do AZ> JH║the changes in TSE make it any better for that purpose? AZ> ╙───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ AZ> AZ> I've always found Boxer to be absolutely perfect for offline AZ> reading. Heck, I even use it for light word processing work. Last time I tried Boxer (quite some time ago, I must admit) it created about 750 subdirectories during the excruciatingly long install process. At the time, I was very pressed for disk space (20 meg hard drive with lots of stuff on it) and it ate just too much of it. Possibly I *thought* it took too much based on the subdirectories. I suppose I have given you the opportunity to tell us about how it is now? Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (06:31) Number: 3035 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> Where does time go? Already in his early twenties. Well he has got a FV> lot of programming ahead of him. Be interesting to see, where it all FV> will be a few years from now, right? Maybe MegaRead will get a good FV> work-over soon, so that you can enjoy it to it's fullest potential. To tell you the truth, I believe that I am using it to the fullest potential. (um... any program, no matter how limited, you can use to the fullest, eh?) I think that it serves my purposes (that's what you meant?) Sure, there are improvements that can be made, but that's another true statement, no matter what software you are discussing. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (06:31) Number: 3036 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ADAM ZION From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: Pruning messages Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) AZ> JH║hehe... that's why ya gotta go for the PostLink node number AZ> JH║pattern... (#1299) for example. I've seen some QEdit routing AZ> ╙───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ AZ> AZ> Another nice feature of Speed Read 1.30 and beyond... when you AZ> tell it to reply privately to a message, it automatically looks for AZ> and places the routing NUMBER at the top left. Quite slick. AZ> Once again, Speed Read might not be the most brute-force AZ> powerful reader out there (I'll leave it up to everyone else to AZ> decide what that might be), but it sure has a lot of slick little AZ> features that I really appreciate. "Smart" routing was a feature that we had in TMR (always route back replies to routed mail) and I've seen it in other readers. Certainly a nice feature if you do much RIME. I liked the implementation of that feature in Speed. My favorite Speed feature, though, was the quote-reformat. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (06:31) Number: 3037 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> │I always thought that Mega should maintain the latest of each CP> │bulletin in the database as a message. In other words, each CP> │bulletin is a message from the BBS to you in a conference called CP> │BULLETIN with a subject of whatever. When you get a new one from CP> │the BBS, then automatically kill the old one. Of course, since CP> │they would be "messages", you could kill them yourself. CP> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ CP> Yes, MegaRead will update the old one with newer one if they have the CP> same filename. It has option to delete them when done, and you will CP> have to use a third part utility to delete a specific Bulletin/News CP> etc.. I think you missed my point there. If you get Bulletin #5 today, it gets saved into the BBSID.ZIP, right? If you get Bulletin #2 tomorrow, it REPLACES BBSID.ZIP. You totally lose access to #5. I believe you should have bulletins #5 *and* #2 to read in BBSID.ZIP (or maybe as messages in the messagebase). Sometime later, when bulletin #5 gets updated again, the old #5 should get retired. In this manner, you could collect the whole set. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:36) Number: 3038 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: RON JANORKAR From: BARBARA ANTHONY Subj: TAGLINES & SLMR Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Wow, I'm honor an questions answered by the author of the software. Ok, I'll give it another try. I did load it into the directory once, and didn't have any luck, but I'll try again, thanks, at least I know I am on the right track. --- * The NoName BBS (703) 754-0884/HST & (703) 754-0279/V32 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NONAMES (#1724) : Relaynet(TM) <<<>>> Date: 06-12-93 (15:22) Number: 3039 of 3255 (Refer# 2967) To: JOSEPH TYSON From: ADAM ZION Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: 06-29-93 (22:40) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JT║I run it under DESQview without any crashes. Windoze too. Different JT║strokes (machines). ╙───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ You mean you've managed to run ANYTHING under DV without crashing it? Phew... I've found DV to be far too unstable for much anything other than occasional multitasking. Of course, I have little love for Windows too <G>. SEE YUZ! from Adam Zion Sat 06-12-1993, 2:38:25 pm ... CP #11 ■ It is better to copulate than never. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #1284 ■ * Farpoint Station BBS / Norristown, PA / (215) 272-6244 [PAPHI] * PostLink(tm) v1.06 FARPOINT (#5146) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-09-93 (22:54) Number: 3040 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail next version Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) This was posted in the RoboMail support conference on ILink ... From: DAN PARSONS To: ALL Date: 06/03/93 Re: RoboMail 1.1 Status Hello Everyone, I just wanted to take a moment to say THANKS to everyone who's tried and/or registered RoboMail. The 1.0 release has been successful beyond my expectations, and I really appreciate everyone's support and enthusiasm. Since I said I would have 1.1 done very soon, and it's not quite ready yet, I wanted to let everyone know what's going on. Here's what's been fixed/changed/added as of today. If you've reported a bug and it's not listed here, that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not going to fix it, or that I haven't received your report. This is just what has been accomplished so far. (In addition to daily work on the next release of Robocomm) I realize that posting this list may seem like a bit of a tease, but I want to let everyone know that I am committed to a nice and clean 1.1 release, and I think this is the best way to show it right now. At this time, I am not accepting any more beta testers. Thank you for not requesting access to the betas at this time. Also, as you know if you followed the long haul to 1.0's release, I try to avoid putting dates on expected release times so please do not ask when, because I honestly don't know. The best answer I can give is that I'm really pounding away on it and this is my #1 priority. Regards, Dan Parsons ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RoboMail 1.1ß1 Changes as of 6/2/93... o Removed the much-maligned vertical scroll bar from the message viewing screen. This will provide an unobstructed view of 79 column messages. To scroll up and down using the mouse, click on the lines above and below the message text window. o Fixed problems when specifying a BBS ID in conjunction with the /e command line parameter. o Fixed "DOS Error 31" problems. o Fixed "S_NUM" problems. o Fixed incorrect quote initials when using AlT-Q in the internal editor. o RoboMail will now automatically add a space to the end of your defined quote characters if they are three characters long. People using the default "-> " will not get this. o In RM 1.0, when using the internal editor, re-editing an outbox message was placing quoting characters before every line of the ORIGINAL.TXT file. They have been removed. o Changed the default quoting characters to "FL>", which uses the initials of the person being responded to. o Fixed problems when ESCaping from the pop-up assistant menu with a special sort or query active. o When re-editing an outbox message with the internal editor, RoboMail would preface each line in the "original" message with the defined quoting characters. Fixed. o Made some attempts to speed up the internal editor. I think I may have succeeded. Please let me know if it still seems excessively sluggish to you. o During export, messages were getting the system date and time rather than the date and time they were saved. Fixed. o Added a "Q"uery key to the tagline manager. Uses the same search methods as in the other queries in the program. Shows a subset of just those tags matching the query after a very fast search. o Added a pop-up F10 pick list for all the query prompts in the system. The pick list allows you to add, edit and delete and can hold as many items as you care to put in it. o Clicking on the "Age", "Keep" or "Discard" options in the message header will now move you on to the next message after making the assignment. o Fixed problem that would cause the exit query for exporting to be skipped if all outbox messages were discarded or on hold and the only other outbox items were offline configuration requests. o Fixed code that could result in "problems" when importing individual messages larger than 32K. Previously, RoboMail would truncate the message at 32K. Now, the messages will be split during import when they exceed 32K. This means RoboMail can now import individual messages of *any* length. If it fits in a QWK, RoboMail will suck it in. o RM was not checking defined conference-specific alias names when determining if a message was "personal." Fixed. o RM will now display an error message instructing you to copy the message to the OutBox if you attempt to re-edit a Chron message. o Hitting "O" in the chron to copy a message to the OutBox was duplicating the tagline. Fixed. o Fixed odd message format behavior that would occur when the following steps were done in order: 1 - Recall a rep 2 - Go to OutBox and display recalled message 3 - Hit Alt-E to edit the message header 4 - Select the Re-Edit button o The main tagline configuration field would allow you to leave it blank. Input is now required. o Added code to the rebuild routines to verify the file attachment data as well. o Fixed invalid "Unable to open standard dictionary" error message that was preventing people from importing words into their standard dictionaries. o You can now create a reply to the recipient of a message by pressing ALT-T (I'm open for suggestions for a better key assignment) o Added some more quick merge macros. Here's a summary. Snip this and assign it to a merge key if you want to see them in action: Summary of RoboMail 1.1 quick merge macros: Current Date: {date} {DATE} RBBS-UTI v3.0ß: by Bob Snyder - (703)323-6423/1782 HST --- * Crossroads BBS - Woodbridge, VA (703) 590-0049 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 CROSSRDS (#603) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (11:38) Number: 3041 of 3255 (Refer# 3018) To: JIM HANOIAN From: JEFF JENNINGS Subj: OLX Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> You have the classic symptoms of INT9 problems. There are fixes out -> for this problem... look for files called INT9FIX or -> FIXSHIFT. Thanks! I'll look out for those. It would be great if it worked... --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (19:55) Number: 3042 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: IMPORTING MSGS-ROBOMAIL Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Is importing FASTER in Robomail IF you have less messages sitting in the RECENT area? 85% of my messages at the moment are in RECENT. If I were to move most of these to ARCHIVE would importing speed up? or does this not matter? «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/13/93 10:05 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 11 ■ <--Yes, it's registered...just waiting for the mail! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (20:34) Number: 3043 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: MARK SHAPIRO Subj: BABBA WRITERS? Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hi, I publish a start-up magazine for Northern California called BABBA, the Bay Area Bulletin Board Advisor. I would like one or more reviews, beginning tutorials, or general articles on off-line mail readers or their use. BABBA has a circulation of 20,000 right now. If you would like to write or have written an article, please route it to ->5093 I will route back or mail the final edited article back to you for final approval before publishing. The article will have your name only on the byline. Also include a short 'blurb' about yourself and contact info. if you wish. Thanks! --- * Berryessa Central BBS 408-946-5642, (BABBA) Sysop: Mark Shapiro * PostLink(tm) v1.05 BERRYESSA (#5093) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:37) Number: 3044 of 3255 (Refer# 3015) To: JIM HANOIAN From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH│ I can see where that would bother you. Can you save the message JH│ to a text file, and then print it using an editor? That could be JH│ a good temporary fix until Dan gets to your recommendations. What I need to do to circumvent this problem is to R)eply to the message I want to print, than I press Alt-N and get the original text, and I am in my faithful TSE editor, and can do what I want in there, and even get rid of some of the "junk" that maybe in the message, I want to print out. When I Q)uit the message I don't save it, rather cancel the message, so there are no trails remaining anywhere else. But again, that is a big hassle, and the reader should be able to handle it gracefully without all these keystrokes to have to perform. I just need to have some patience, and "see" when Parsons will include it in the reader. JH│ I went ballistic with the reformatting which pulled the second JH│ space from the end of a sentence. There were a few other odds JH│ and ends, but it is a young program and needs the benefit of JH│ giving it a bit of time to mature. For a first release, it is JH│ very impressive. FV> like page 1 of 6 or what ever you want there to be printed, or nothing FV> at all. I made my own programs, and they look very nice. Some of it FV> require some little routines, but an excellent programmer like Dan FV> Parsons shouldn't see that as an obstacle in the programming.... JH│ Yeah... I do Clipper, Fox and dBase, and I know what you mean. JH│ Some of the things that have been mentioned are very good ideas. JH│ It is difficult to think of everything yourself and program at JH│ the same time... you need the feedback, and you can make it JH│ happen on the screen. Yes that is what is important for the author to remain touch with the user. I have been told that he is extremely busy and has a back- log. He tries perhaps to do too much all by himself and could let thereby the user suffer by it. If he needs someone to fill his orders, I cannot understand he needs or wants to do it all by himself. He could use his time better, I would think, and stick to programming. He gets lots of inputs from the users, and implementing it as a program- mer, I don't expect to take that much time. He is a very experienced programmer, and if one has to learn how to program, yes then I can see this, but Dan Parsons doesn't fall into that category. I have lots of respect for him, what he accomplished with his latest creation. And it is only v1.00 and don't us not let forget this! :)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Monday, June 14, at 01:08 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:37) Number: 3045 of 3255 (Refer# 3016) To: JIM HANOIAN From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH│ Too weird for me! Alt-X is bye-bye in my book... Most of the JH│ power editors allow keyboard reconfiguration. Sounds like an JH│ immediate need there. Yes I couldn't agree more with you. And for those reasons among at least one of them, I doubt the program is not that popular. It has it's strong points, but I still don't like it.... FV> Oh yes. It is a pity there is no demo fro it, but once you have tried FV> Tessie, than you will never go back to Qedit. You find Qedit running FV> too slow. You probably say: Too Slow??? Well there are a number of JH│ I've debated sending away for it... I might do it yet... I bet you Jim, that you will like it. If you like Qedit anywhere near, you'll switch in no time to Tessie. It is a great and much more powerful and faster editor than Qedit. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Monday, June 14, at 01:13 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:37) Number: 3046 of 3255 (Refer# 3020) To: MATT KLECZEWSKI From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: OFFLINE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV>I agree with you. If your resources are limited, like possibly on a FV>laptop, then you must look at a reader, that can work with limited FV>memory and disk space. RM may not be what you want. It is a large MK│ I've settled on SLMR for the laptop and Speed for the desktop... If you feel comfortable with either program, that is what counts. I don't blame you, and you shouldn't need to change every time a new reader comes out. I know, I made my choice, and I am happy with the performance and overall features this RM reader offers. Bye .. :-) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Monday, June 14, at 01:15 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ Just how funny _is_ a gigglybyte? * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:37) Number: 3047 of 3255 (Refer# 3027) To: GARTH MCKAY From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM│ Yes, I've read many an informative post by Mel. I also use TSE GM│ as my editor for the mail reader. FV> I told him so much about RoboMail, that he also got exited FV> about RoboMail. Mel is a darn good programmer, and knows his FV> business. GM│ Great, I'd be interested to hear what he thinks. I am sure you read a lot about it from Mel Hulse. I also suggested for him to join the Ilink network with the Robomail conference. That network and conference is extremely active. If you haven't tried it, you may like to join it. Good luck and bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Monday, June 14, at 01:18 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (09:46) Number: 3048 of 3255 (Refer# 3017) To: JIM HANOIAN From: RAY JOYCE Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * Kip should have had the quote-box defaulted to off <grin>. I * have argued, though, that the boxes don't add much to QWK packets * since the repeated identical characters zip up to virtually They *do* mess things up with Fido though. When I was using the quote boxes, nothing I said after them made it through. The boxes were interpreted as the end of the message. People thought I was leaving "phantom" messages. <G> * Anyway, you have brought up one of my beefs... the multiple * taglines, tearlines, door-lines, etc, etc, etc. Chuckle, I know what you mean. I do like the fact that Mega allows you to turn the tag lines completely off. Others insist that you advertise their product with each message you leave. <BG> --- * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (14:02) Number: 3049 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: JASPER PINO Subj: SCRIPT FILES Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I've never tried using Script files in ProComm. I'd like to know how to create/use Script files to do the repetetive tasks of logging on, dl'ing/ul'ing my mail packet/reply, and then logging off. I use MegaMail for my offline mail reader. Can someone take me by the hand and explain the procedure of how to make them work? Thanks. --- ■ MegaMail 2.10 #0:I t▒ld yo▒, "Never▒touch ▒he flop▒y disk s▒rface * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (08:06) Number: 3050 of 3255 (Refer# 3011) To: BOB OFFICER From: PATRICK LEE Subj: Subject Re: Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Bob Officer writes: -> Is there a way to force BlueWAve to turn off the RE: prefix on subjec -> headeds.... This is a pain... maybe the DEfault should be changed. -> -> The RE: makes threads hard to follow! Get a mail reader that ignores the `Re:'s. Most of the more up-to-date readers do. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (09:22) Number: 3051 of 3255 (Refer# 3005) To: DAN LLOYD From: DANE BEKO Subj: SPEED IS REGISTERED! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> All the problems I've had with RoboMail were in Speed Reader when I -> tested version 1.3 of it, but RoboMail does not have all the Folks have had problems with RM as well. SPEED is in use under Windows and OS/2 on other users' systems and works fine. One person has a problem with SPEED under his setup but not with RM. Vice-versa in other cases. -> you store more messages than Speed can handle per conference (about -> 2200 vs. Robo's unlimited), what happens? Go ahead, give it a try. Once again, design philosophy. SPEED was never intended to handle an unlimited amount of messages in its database. I've had over 4700 messages in one conference in SPEED and it worked fine. Slowly but fine. :) --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ Hey... is that SUPPOSED to smoke like that..? * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (01:22) Number: 3052 of 3255 (Refer# 3035) To: JIM HANOIAN From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH│ To tell you the truth, I believe that I am using it to the fullest JH│ potential. (um... any program, no matter how limited, you can JH│ use to the fullest, eh?) I think that it serves my purposes JH│ (that's what you meant?) Sure, there are improvements that can JH│ be made, but that's another true statement, no matter what JH│ software you are discussing. You are so right, Jim. I can understand your position on this, and we all have to decide, what we like most. If you chose to like one par- ticular piece of software, be it a mail reader or something else, then you either like it or hate it... grrin. I know, I have bought software I don't like and I only blame myself. Now a days, I am more choosy, and evaluate it first, like the shareware concept. We decide for our- selves and when I make a mistake, I pay for it, no one else... :(( ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Monday, June 14, at 09:34 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ Adam ate the apple, and our teeth still ache. * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (11:26) Number: 3053 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL-VIEWING WIDE ONE Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) When reading/viewing messages that go beyond the 72 columns (off to the right of the screen) how to you see them? I can't see the part of the message that extends off the screen. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/13/93 21:32 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 11 ■ <--Yes, it's registered...just waiting for the mail! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (13:31) Number: 3054 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: instant Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Someone on here was raving about the speed of Cherry Picker. Well, MKTag is just about instant off of floppy. ──══ Matt ══ ...MKTag 1.0 * Fools rush in, and get the best seats. --- * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (16:38) Number: 3055 of 3255 (Refer# 3012) To: STEVE MCNAMARA From: CARLOS BATISTA Subj: .QWK to ASCII text file Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SM║MK>There was a program on one of the CDs here called QWK2TXT, I'll download ║ >it and let you know how things work out. SM║Thanks, Matt. I've found a semi-solution. I use SLMR and can select a ║conference to 'save' the messages to. I just pick the conferences I'm ║interested in and save them to a single ASCII file. It's clunky, but it ║works. Have you already try using MailDB? ╔═══════════════ │ Internet: carlos.batista@cats.gna.org ╚ arlos Batista │ RelayNet: r/o ->5103 to CARLOS BATISTA on SHAREWARE CONF. ··· ■ TagMail v0.16ß ■ [Carlos Batista] --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ * SKYSHIP BBS - Lisbon 3511-3527623/3151435/3151436/3148087» * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SKYSHIP (#638) : RelayNet(tm) SuperRegional Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (06:27) Number: 3056 of 3255 (Refer# 3008) To: GARTH MCKAY From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) You mentioned to Chris Priede: GM> As far as the design issue you mention. I don't think it would GM> be the best of designs if while reading messages the program GM> allowed you to also perform an operation on that same file such GM> as purging messages and packing. I'm sure you'd get a nicely GM> mangled database file <g>. Actually, if the programmer locks RECORDS instead of FILES while this is happening, everything will come out fine. This kind of thing is a requirement in networked applications where the system stays up 24 hours per day, and there never is any time when it can be stand-alone. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (06:27) Number: 3057 of 3255 (Refer# 3006) To: MIKE BARON From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: RoboMail problem Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MB> »» Not too bad... still, did you follow the QEMM exception process? MB> »» They give some good tips at resolving the conflicts. MB> MB> No I didn't, but the error hasn't happened again. What is the MB> exception process? Maybe I need to pay more attention to the screen MB> when these problems arise. <g> There are several QEMM/DV TEC reports on the topic (and it is covered in the QEMM manual, but not well) and they basically tell you that it is a result of an ill-behaved program (not their's, of course) that is stomping in a memory area that it should not (according to the rules). So, you have to jiggle things a bit (maybe change the loading order on your programs, so they "see" a different memory area to live in) or juggle things more (play hide and seek with the programs to see what actually causes the problem). One procedure that is detailed is to have QEMM track memory area usages, and then run all your programs for a while. Then when you check the memory area usages, you'll see which ones wandered where, and you can ultimately tell QEMM to "fence" that area off so that no matter how ill-behaved the program is, it won't create a conflict since no other program will be able to bump into it there. You'll probably get better info in the DV/QEMM conference (and might even get Quarterdeck to post the TECs for you). Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (09:16) Number: 3058 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MARK SHAPIRO From: CHUCK ORTON Subj: BABBA WRITERS? Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MS>Hi, I publish a start-up magazine for Northern California called BABBA, MS>the Bay Area Bulletin Board Advisor. I would like one or more reviews, MS>beginning tutorials, or general articles on off-line mail readers or MS>their use. BABBA has a circulation of 20,000 right now. If you would MS>like to write or have written an article, please route it to ->5093 MS>I will route back or mail the final edited article back to you for final MS>approval before publishing. The article will have your name only on the MS>byline. Also include a short 'blurb' about yourself and contact info. if MS>you wish. Thanks! Mark, How about some subscription information? Thanks in advance, chucko * QMPro 1.02 41-4776 * Custer was fitted for an Arrow shirt --- * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (21:52) Number: 3059 of 3255 (Refer# 3039) To: ADAM ZION From: CHAU PHAM Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: ADAM ZION«═── 6/12/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/14/1993─────────────. │ You mean you've managed to run ANYTHING under DV without │crashing it? Phew... I've found DV to be far too unstable for much │anything other than occasional multitasking. Of course, I have │little love for Windows too <G>. └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. I have been running about everything under DV for the past few years w/o any problem. Actually, I don't use more than 3-5 programs daily. * Qwkit 1.0b * Now using Qmail DeLuxe²...and loving it! 21st is the best MSG! --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (21:58) Number: 3060 of 3255 (Refer# 3033) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: FRANK VLAMINGS«═── 6/14/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/14/1993────────. │Do you mean cross-post, rather than cost_post? If you mean cross-post │you definitely can do that in RoboMail. I am doing it daily and it is │beautiful. Hope this helps. Bye .. :-)) └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. Argg.. Yes, I meant cross_post. I have seen the option now. * Qwkit 1.0b * Now where did I put those transwarp drive specs? ... --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (22:07) Number: 3061 of 3255 (Refer# 3019) To: JIM HANOIAN From: CHAU PHAM Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: JIM HANOIAN«═── 6/12/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/14/1993───────────. │CP> I agree that it needs upgrading.. I have poured sugar mixed with │CP> vinegar on Kip sometime <G>. │Maybe you should get a gun instead <just joking!> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. I haven't done any ßeta testing for the past few months and do need something to play with <G>. * Qwkit 1.0b * Now, miss, we must verify each pixel.... STOP SQUIRMING! --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (22:12) Number: 3062 of 3255 (Refer# 3037) To: JIM HANOIAN From: CHAU PHAM Subj: RoboMail Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: JIM HANOIAN«═── 6/13/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/14/1993───────────. │I think you missed my point there. If you get Bulletin #5 today, │it gets saved into the BBSID.ZIP, right? If you get Bulletin #2 │tomorrow, it REPLACES BBSID.ZIP. You totally lose access to #5. │I believe you should have bulletins #5 *and* #2 to read in │BBSID.ZIP (or maybe as messages in the messagebase). Sometime └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. It's exactly what I meant. o The reader will keep bulletin #5 and add bulltin #2 to the BBSID.ZIP o If there is a newer bulletin #5 then the reader will delete the *old* #5 and replace with *new* bulletin #5 * Qwkit 1.0b * Now.... what was I saying? --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (14:09) Number: 3063 of 3255 (Refer# 3042) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: CHAU PHAM Subj: IMPORTING MSGS-ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: DANIEL JUAREZ«═── 6/13/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/15/1993─────────. │Is importing FASTER in Robomail IF you have less messages sitting in the │RECENT area? 85% of my messages at the moment are in RECENT. If I were │to move most of these to ARCHIVE would importing speed up? or does this │not matter? └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. If you have plenty of memory then use Ram Drive as WORK dir will speed up importing a little. The reader should extract .QWK to ram drive, then import to database. * Qwkit 1.0b * Deep down I'm pretty superficial. --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:53) Number: 3064 of 3255 (Refer# 2984) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: DAN LLOYD Subj: ROBOMAIL CRASHING. Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >DJ ∙just about everything as it is done (which I like). Anyway, I've heard >DJ ∙talk that RM access 50k of the EMS page frame. First, I have no idea >DJ ∙what this means, except that it has something to do with memory. I >DJ ∙would just like to know how to alleviate this considering I run it >DJ ∙through Windows and will continue to do so. Do you have this line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file? SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0 If, after setting, the problems continue, I would also recommend disabling the background cleaning of the DBV file. You'll find this setting in the RoboMail configuration area. >DJ ∙ EMS req. 520k limit 1024k Unless you have E:520 in your parameter line (SET ROBO...), this may be an additional problem source. By default, RoboMail will take 1024k EMS. (BTW, separate options in the parameter line with a ;.) --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ If at first you don't suck seeds, then try try a grain * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:53) Number: 3065 of 3255 (Refer# 3008) To: GARTH MCKAY From: DAN LLOYD Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >GM ∙CP> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by >GM ∙CP> deleted messages whenever possible. At least, it should if it >GM ∙CP> is properly designed. Packing is still recommended, but less >GM ∙CP> often. >GM ∙ Chris, I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the >GM ∙ Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some >GM ∙ house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. >GM ∙ There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. Chris is correct, at least per the manual. Note (from p. 55): Packing Your Data Files ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Packing" refers to the process of permanently removing all the disk space consumed by "deleted" data from a database. RoboMail keeps a strict watch on all discarded data within your message database and will efficiently recycle it during the message importing process. For this reason, packing RoboMail's data files is not normally necessary. Or do you have some inside, beta tester information you would like to share with us? :-) --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ Every action has an equal and opposite criticism * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:53) Number: 3066 of 3255 (Refer# 3009) To: GARTH MCKAY From: DAN LLOYD Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >GM ∙ I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the >GM ∙ Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some >GM ∙ house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. >GM ∙ There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. It was, but I also was referring to something else. I didn't mean to imply that this was the same as packing. In addition, space is reclaimed without repacking, however. The space that had been used for Discarded messages gets used by newly imported messages. More on background DBV cleaning: Avoid it unless you're on a very stable, single task system. I've isolated a minor DBV corruption bug to background cleaning. If your system goes down for _any_ reason during the background mode, you will lose some messages. Disabling this results in only slightly longer conference processing times. Thanks for the message though. My post did seem to imply that packing takes place in the background. --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ Anti-abortionists - people trying to find a life * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:53) Number: 3067 of 3255 (Refer# 2987) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: DAN LLOYD Subj: ROBOMAIL PROBLEM Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >DJ ∙DL>It should be in this file as follows: SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0. I've had n >DJ ∙DL>speed difference, and it functions with greater stability than even >DJ ∙DL>SLMR. >DJ ∙--- >DJ ∙Is this a valid option for one running RM through Windows? Or would it >DJ ∙not have an effect on RM? Or is this SET thing for users of QEMM only? I >DJ ∙don't use QEMM. I haven't had a big problem with stability >DJ ∙either, but... Thanks. Standard DOS command, usable under Windows. BTW, QEMM is usable with Windows, too! In fact, it's memory management is far faster, which just might make Windows usable. :-) --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ Windows, n. see entry under tranquilizer * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (23:53) Number: 3068 of 3255 (Refer# 2969) To: JOSEPH TYSON From: DAN LLOYD Subj: RoboMail probles Read: 06-29-93 (22:40) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >JT ∙For those of you evaluating RoboMail and are having problems with it >JT ∙crashing please try the following in your AUTOEXEC: >JT ∙SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0 >JT ∙This should fix the problems for most. The problem is that RoboMail >JT ∙will use the PageFrame directly without going through EMS and if your >JT ∙using QEMM STealth -or- DESQview... BOOM! Good luck. Good luck with Well ... DV or Stealth in and of themselves don't cause the problem. It's when another app is accessing the page frame, whether directly or to access EMS (not through). This can be caused by an EMS using disk cache, RAM disk, etc. Under DV, with no TSRs or drivers accessing the page frame (for EMS transfers or directly), if another app, like FoxPro which also uses the page frame, is running in another window, "BOOM" is the result. >JT ∙RoboMail, it is the BEST reader I've come across IMNSHO ;^) There we agree! --- ■ RM 1.0 00534 ■ Is it a virus ... or Speed Reader's memory management? * Terrapin Station - Minneapolis, MN - 612/623-0152 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 TSTATION (#971) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-13-93 (11:14) Number: 3069 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: KAREN DAVIS Subj: MegaMail / MegaRead Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> intuitive. No strange keystrokes, but very logically implied. I like FV> that. I am glad you like the MegaRead reader, and when it satisfies FV> your needs, that is really all that counts. Good luck and bye .. :-)) Well, mostly I'm looking at stuff for a couple of reasons. First, I am always interested in other database readers and whether they're better or different than Mega. Not all dissatisfaction with Mega, just looking around. Karen Davis RIME ->1481 or ->823 FIDO 1:207/206 --- ■ Hobbitmail ■ Doing strange things in the name of art * Seven Seas BBS-Moreno Valley, CA (909)247-2972 ZyXEL v.32bis/v.42bis * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SEVENSEAS (#1065) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:14) Number: 3070 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHAU PHAM From: MIKE BARON Subj: RoboMail problem Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) »» P.S. I just typed "HYPERDKX C:1024" at DOS Prompt and it changed the »» size alright. It also popped up this message. It worked, I think, this time, and I got the same "buffer re-allocated" message, but no change in Robomail's speed. Thanks, I'll keep working on it. BTW, the docs for Hyperdisk say to use Hyperdk.exe in a batch file to change cache size, either an error, or I mis-understood. --- ■ RM 1.0 00562 ■ Oh, no, not another learning experience! * No Anchovies PC * Ashtabula OH * 216-466-1151 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NAPCOHIO (#803) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (18:39) Number: 3071 of 3255 (Refer# 3034) To: JIM HANOIAN From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Last time I tried Boxer (quite some time ago, I must admit) it -> created about 750 subdirectories during the excruciatingly long Check out the Bingo editor (I know, the name sounds cheesy). It is really HOT! Virtual memory, multi-level undo, mouse support, powerful macro language, reconfigurable keyboard, etc. You can dl it from Computer Connections @ 1-(202) 547-2008. The filename is be310.zip. I think you will like it alot! --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ So Many Messages!.............So Little Time! <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (18:39) Number: 3072 of 3255 (Refer# 3047) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> him to join the Ilink network with the Robomail conference. That -> network and conference is extremely active. If you haven't tried it, -> you may like to join it. Good luck and bye .. :-)) Frank, could you list some boards that carry Ilink on the East coast (near NC)? Thanks. --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ Iraqi Bingo: B52...F-16...A-10...F-18...F-117...B2... <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (22:43) Number: 3074 of 3255 (Refer# 3068) To: DAN LLOYD From: JOSEPH TYSON Subj: RoboMail probles Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> Well ... DV or Stealth in and of themselves don't cause the problem. -> It's when another app is accessing the page frame, whether directly -> or to access EMS (not through). This can be caused by an EMS using -> disk Perhaps the DBF parameter for QEMM would prevent this scenario? Any one who's dbase is small wanna' try? --- ■ RM 1.0 00390 ■ RoboMail -- The ultimate QWK compatible message manager. <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (21:39) Number: 3075 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: BARBARA ANTHONY Subj: SLMR repeated messages Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I was wondering how one repeats the same message that has been typed once, can be repeated on a number of bbs's. For instance, if you have something for sale, and wanted to post it on a number of boards, how would I do it. I believe it can be done, since I have seen duplicate messages on different boards. By the way, thanks for the help on using SLMR, it is going much better, and I am beginning to like using it. I even got a new file of taglines to work today, so I am FEELING GOOD!!!. See ya around. Barb --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ "Anybody hear any good jokes lately?" -- Pee Wee Herman * The NoName BBS (703) 754-0884/HST & (703) 754-0279/V32 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NONAMES (#1724) : Relaynet(TM) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (14:23) Number: 3076 of 3255 (Refer# 2977) To: MATT KLECZEWSKI From: RON HOSSACK Subj: Offlien Readers Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Matt Kleczewski said: > I'd like to request it, please! On it's way ... ... --- * MikeMayl v1.0 * TOE: Device for finding furniture in the dark... ■ BCSUTI Version 1.0 * Solid Rock BBS, Riverside, CA (909)785-9176 HST DS * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SOLIDROCK (#812) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (23:04) Number: 3077 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DICK WALSH From: BARBARA ANTHONY Subj: (R)TAGLINES & SLMR Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Well Dick, I figured out how to add taglines to SLMR. Just copy the taglines into the original file, or rename the new file to the original file name. Works fine. Things are going better with SLMR. Looked for 1st reader in the file list and I couldn't find it. Do you know the exact name or almost exact name of it? RBBS-UTI v3.0ß: by Bob Snyder - (703)323-6423/1782 HST --- * Crossroads BBS - Woodbridge, VA (703) 590-0049 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 CROSSRDS (#603) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (23:06) Number: 3078 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: TRISH MENDENHALL From: BARBARA ANTHONY Subj: (R)TAGLINES & SLMR Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Thanks Trish for the input on the taglines. I copied the taglines into the original tagline file in SLMR. It works....that's all I can say. Maybe it's not the "right" way but it works. RBBS-UTI v3.0ß: by Bob Snyder - (703)323-6423/1782 HST --- * Crossroads BBS - Woodbridge, VA (703) 590-0049 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 CROSSRDS (#603) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (14:59) Number: 3079 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: JEFF JENNINGS Subj: a very qwk answer Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Thanks to all for your assessments on what the best qwk reader is. I have stayed with my first try -- OLX test drive. I is very nice and does the job and is mouseable. --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ I don't use taglines just for the sake of using them. * COMPUTERS & DREAMS (212) 888-6565 10/NODES 2.6Gig FREE! * PostLink(tm) v1.06 COMPNDREAMS (#1638) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (15:01) Number: 3080 of 3255 (Refer# 3018) To: JIM HANOIAN From: JEFF JENNINGS Subj: OLX Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH>You have the classic symptoms of INT9 problems. There are fixes JH>out for this problem... look for files called INT9FIX or JH>FIXSHIFT. I found this program and tried it and so far it works! I am hoping the change is truly there. Also, the file said it was for problems with lantastic which caused this but my system is a simple 386sx with a meg of ram. But it did the job. Thanks again. --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Recovery not found: (A)bort (R)etry (I)mpeach * COMPUTERS & DREAMS (212) 888-6565 10/NODES 2.6Gig FREE! * PostLink(tm) v1.06 COMPNDREAMS (#1638) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:20) Number: 3081 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAVID MULLENS From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DM│ Thanks for the info. I saw that Dan P. is going to add some variables DM│ soon. I'm looking forward to it. I like that I don't have to register DM│ another program. I don't have another editor right now. Until version DM│ 1.1 of Robomail comes out I guess this will have to do. I also look forward to that new version 1.10 for RoboMail. I will be patient till we have it... grrrin. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Thursday, June 17, at 07:00 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:20) Number: 3082 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> Thanks for that information. I see you are now using Qwkit reader. Is FV> this also a database reader? I have never heard of this one, but there KD│ Qwkkit is a little ad on program that twits and adds taglines. Oh that is interesting, Karen. Have you taken a look at shareware program RoboMail yet? It is a powerful database off-line mail reader, and if you have not done so, you will otherwise deprive yourself of one of the best readers, I have come across. I just recently started using it, registered it, and am a convert after having used PMDBM for 18 months. Hope this helps. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Thursday, June 17, at 07:02 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (01:01) Number: 3083 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: RON HOSSACK From: DAVID MULLENS Subj: NEW QWK READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) RH>All while saving big bucks because MikeMayl is -=FREE=- What board do I call???? --- ■ RM 1.0 00590 ■ Well, it seemed like the thing to do at the time. * Sudden Impact * Kokomo, IN * 317-457-5957 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 IMPACT (#5091) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (21:24) Number: 3084 of 3255 (Refer# 3029) To: NATHAN TAYLOR From: DICK WALSH Subj: ROBOMAIL TWIT 1 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) NT┤I would like to know if there is anyway to filter (twit) incoming mail ┤based on subject or recipient, rather than just sender? I'm sure some ┤of you have come upon subjects you don't even want to spend the time ┤skipping over or people who you don't care to see messages from or to. ┤If there isn't a way, could someone here be kind enough to forward my ┤request for this feature to Dan (I don't get the RoboComm support ┤conference). Thanks! NT┤ /\/ate - Star Date 9552.16 NT┤... Guts: putting the name "SYSOP" in your twit filter Here is the the WHAT's New file that comes with My offline Mail reader called> 1.st you should find a copy of the shareware on your bbs... if you don't send me a note and I'll arrange an upload. ■ Added a new command line switch "/DAY:". This switch will let you run 1stReader on certain days of the week (1=Sun, 2=Mon, etc). For example, the command "1ST /DAY:135" would execute 1stReader on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Great for sysops who use 1stReader to make their nightly mail runs. ■ Fixed various minor bugs in NEWFILES.EXE. For example, if you viewed a new files list from a KMAIL or MARKMAIL door then you would see the list of new files twice. Also, if you selected the "HELP" button from the "Manual tags" section the help would not be displayed. Fixed. ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── What's new with 1stReader 1.10? May 15th, 1993 ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ■ Toll-free online ordering for 1stReader is now available from The United States of America and Canada! Just use the ordering system provided at the end of the program. And you can download your keyfile and begin using 1stReader tonite. No waiting!!! Our registration fee is still only $25 (US funds). Compare the features list below to any other offline mail system available today. Most mail readers require you to register other utilities (like terminal programs and file archivers) in order to use their systems. Not with 1stReader! We give you EVERYTHING you need. With other readers, it could cost over $200 to match what we provide with 1stReader for only $25...compare! ■ Our INSTALL language and utility allows anyone to create 'add-in' applications for 1stReader. We provide an online help module for PCBoard bulletin board systems as an example of just how powerful INSTALL is for you. (offline help for other bulletin board systems will be available shortly). And besides, if you need even MORE power, you've got it! We have the most flexible API (Applications Program Interface) in the business. Just write your application so it can read our API and you're set. We'll even help you out!! ■ 1stReader supports up to 7,700 conferences per mail packet and up to 32,767 messages per conference. This little statistic means 1stReader can manage a mail packet that contains up to 252,305,900 messages. Need any more room????? ■ User defineable folders can now support up to 32,767 messages per folder and you can have as many folders as you wish. Unlimited!!! ■ You can easily view messages in folders and enter your own replies to them at any time. You can even have 1stReader automatically save your own replies into a folder for future reference - without one keystroke required by you. ■ 1stReader now allows you to forward a message to another user (and you can attach your own personal comments). ■ Fast bookmarks! If you access a mail packet that was received from a Qmail Door system, PCBoard 15.0's new internal QWK module, or eSoft's QSO module for TBBS (or any mail system taking advantage of our QWK/2 packet format), then inserting a bookmark is a breeze! ■ 1stReader saves your bulletins and new files lists so you can consult them at any time, even without having mail packets on file. ■ The 1stReader system provides you with an easy to use terminal communications system. There is no need to use other communications products to transfer your messages and files. Everything is built into the system and is seamless. A full scripting language is available too. · Continued in the next message... * 1st 1.11 #1838 * 1stReader: Anything else is greasy kid-stuff. --- * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (21:24) Number: 3085 of 3255 (Refer# 3029) To: NATHAN TAYLOR From: DICK WALSH Subj: ROBOMAIL TWIT 2 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Continued from the previous message... · ■ With 1stReader, you can call your favorite bulletin board systems in the middle of the night (when rates are lowest) ...all from the DOS command line. When you wake up, your messages are waiting for you. We even support PC-Pursuit!! ■ Our QSZ file transfer engine provides support for the best file transfer protocol in our industry today, Zmodem. QSZ also supports Xmodem, Ymodem and Ymodem/G too (if needed). It's fast and quite pretty to look at! ■ We provide our own ZIP compatible archiving programs for your use. And our QUNZIP module is 100% compatible with the brand new PKZIP 2.04g system in use today (nobody else supports 2.04g (yet)). This means you do not need to go out and register yet another utility (and spend even more money) in order to use 1stReader (unlike some other mail readers out there today). We've got it all... ■ Our internal editor is fast and easy. You can import files into your replies, quick and easy quoting is available, and even accents are provided (by pressing ALT+A). But if you don't like our own editor, use your favorite text editor with 1stReader. We support up to 100 external editors at one time from within 1stReader! ■ Internal file viewers and ANSI file viewers are included. The BEST ANSI reader on the market (sez Joe Malacria, Da ANSI Phreak). 1stReader features auto-ANSIART detection and 43/50 line ANSI art modes. We even tries to 'sniff out' those ANSI messages that do not include the [ANSIART] label... ■ 1stReader now supports .GIF and .NAP (NAPLPS) graphics formats. You can view a .GIF or .NAP file from within 1stReader's file manager by simply selecting the file. We also allow sysops to use .GIF and .NAP files as their welcome/news/bulletins files within 1stReader too. ■ Sound Blaster support! 1stReader fully supports multimedia through a Sound Blaster (or compatible) sound card. Now you can hear voices, music or sound effects. Sound support included for .VOC, .CMF and .MID files. All of these files will play through your sound card (.CMF and .MID files are supported through 'AdLib' or compatible cards). More than just a gimmick, some bulletin board systems can put 1stReader's multimedia (MME) support to very good use. ■ Did someone say MIDI?!!! You bet we did!!!! 1stReader also includes a MPU401 MIDI sequencer. Now, instead of hearing tones through your sound card, you can *play* any .MID file through your professional sound system with full orchestration and clarity! Get out that baton!!! ■ An easy to use external spelling checker is provided. Again, you can use your own spelling checker if you like. ■ 1stReader supports The Language Translation Pack series from MicroTac Software. This means that you can receive messages in one language, translate them into English and even translate your own replies into another language. French, German, Spanish, Italian and Russian language packs are available at $99 per language. ■ We provide a 'virtual' mouse keyboard for disabled users. Either click the LEFT and RIGHT mouse buttons at the SAME time or move your mouse cursor to the top left corner of your screen and click the LEFT button to access the keyboard. Only our products offer this unique feature. ■ 1stReader can manage up to 1,000 taglines internally. And as always, we provide seamless support for the master of taglines, 'John Hancock' from The Silicon Frog, Inc. ■ No offline mail reader supports the Internet like 1stReader does. 1stReader can display a single message that is up to 32,767 lines long. And our 'Auto-stitch' feature lets 1stReader automatically rebuild Internet messages that have been 'chopped up' by BBS gateways into smaller messages (a feature that works with Merlin Systems' PCB-UUCP for PCBoard systems). When 1stReader finds an Internet message it automatically use the RFC-822 'To', 'From' and 'Subject' fields in the message header. And the reader also provides DOS shell command modifiers that make UUDECODE easier. ■ 1stReader supports PostLink(tm) routing and will automatically use a FIDO-compliant tagline if you reply to a FIDOnet-sourced message. 1stReader even strips out the high ASCII values for you... Lots of luck! The Dickester * 1st 1.11 #1838 * 1stReader: Anything else is greasy kid-stuff. --- * Eagles Nest Communications 401-732-5290 ENEST.COM PVD.RI.US 3/84 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EAGLE (#8) : RelayNet(tm) HUB <<<>>> Date: 06-16-93 (16:33) Number: 3086 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: RAM DRIVE & ROBOMAIL Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I have setup a RAM drive for use with Robomail's message importing. My question, is how large should it be? My mail packets are usually 200- 300k, is that, once expanded, going to require more than 1024k of RAM drive space? *****DANIEL***** 06/16/93 06:45 * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 14 * REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) --- * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (13:34) Number: 3087 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: CHRIS YOKUM From: CHAU PHAM Subj: OFF-LINE READER Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: CHRIS YOKUM«═── 6/14/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/17/1993───────────. │CP»><^PgUp>$FROM:25<^PgUp><F7><F8><^K>wADDRESS.BK<Enter><^K>y │That's good, EXCEPT it won't paste the address from your address │book into the header. :( └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. As I have mentioned that I may be able to create lot wilder features if it just give me few more options. Mark_Column, ^KC in Header, Search_String etc.. * Qwkit 1.0b * Morticia, Thing needs a hand... --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (22:23) Number: 3088 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM│ Yes, I've read many an informative post by Mel. I also use GM│ TSE as my editor for the mail reader. FV> I told him so much about RoboMail, that he also got exited FV> about RoboMail. Mel is a darn good programmer, and knows his FV> business. GM│ Great, I'd be interested to hear what he thinks. FV> I am sure you read a lot about it from Mel Hulse. I also FV> suggested for him to join the Ilink network with the Robomail FV> conference. Great. Since I am also interested in editors I also grab the Intelic Editors conference once a week. Very interesting threads. Since it is a general conference for editors the authors and/or the beta testers for the popular editors (TSE, MultiEdit, Brief, Vedit, Boxer,...) make an appearance there. To wit, Mel is there and also George De Bruin who had an unfortunate experience with RM crashing and gave up on it immediately. So maybe if Mel likes it he will encourage George to give it another shot <g>. later, -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (22:23) Number: 3089 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) CP> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by CP> deleted messages whenever possible. GM> Chris, I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the GM> Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some GM> house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. GM> There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. DL> Chris is correct, at least per the manual. Note (from p. 55): My mistake, where was my head! I should have been banned from the keyboard that evening! Yes, the space will in fact be reused. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (22:23) Number: 3090 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM> I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the GM> Background and the smiley face indicator. This merely does some GM> house keeping and speeds up operations in the reading mode. GM> There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. DL> It was, but I also was referring to something else. I didn't DL> mean to imply that this was the same as packing. Ok, sorry I misunderstood. I thought you might have been equating the two. DL> In addition, space is reclaimed without repacking, however. DL> The space that had been used for Discarded messages gets used DL> by newly imported messages. Doug, you are absolutely correct about this. Thanks for the correction. One of the things I had been doing it the beta testing was beating on RM by using a huge database of messages. Of course, deleting a couple of messages in a 100 meg database doesn't look like anything is resused <g>. So the theory became somewhat clouded by what I was doing in practice. So the space is available for reuse but if you get to the point that your trash messages are equal to your other messages you might find it valuable to do a pack. Again, thanks for the correction, -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (22:23) Number: 3091 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JIM HANOIAN From: GARTH MCKAY Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM> As far as the design issue you mention. I don't think it would GM> be the best of designs if while reading messages the program GM> allowed you to also perform an operation on that same file such GM> as purging messages and packing. I'm sure you'd get a nicely GM> mangled database file <g>. JH> Actually, if the programmer locks RECORDS instead of FILES JH> while this is happening, everything will come out fine. This JH> kind of thing is a requirement in networked applications where JH> the system stays up 24 hours per day, and there never is any JH> time when it can be stand-alone. Dah!!! Of course you're right. Databases for networks do have record locking for obvious reasons. Boy, did I parse out a bunch of jibberish that night that is coming back to haunt me <g>. Sometimes I just don't know when to turn this thing off and give it a rest <g>. Jim, thanks for the correction. -=garth=- --- ■ RM 1.0 B0035 ■ * EMERALD ONLINE BBS * (503)741-8174 * Springfield, OR * 3 Nodes * D/S 16.8 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EMERALD (#644) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (21:59) Number: 3092 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: Hold tight! Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I will be leaving for Louisville next week, June 21-26, and I will try to keep up with messages. I will try to do a mail run to either the Abacus BBS in Enterprise, AL, or just call The Gold Mine here. But, if I can't, rest assured that you'll be replied to! --- ■ KingQWK 1.05 ■ Never let an inanimate object defeat you... * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (09:36) Number: 3093 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MIKE MAY From: DANE BEKO Subj: MikeMayl v1.0 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hi Mike. Got a copy of MikeMayl v1.0 and tried using it on a LUNATIC.QWK packet. However, the reader refused to display any conference number above #408. The Lunatic Fringe has over 1000 conferences (1031 to be exact). Any chance of getting MikeMayl to handle such a large number of conferences? Thanks. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #7 ■ █████████████ <╔╦╗i><i▐\▌G δRi╔╗▐<> * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (14:16) Number: 3094 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MIKE MAY From: DENNIS TEAGUE Subj: MikeMayl v1.0 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Mike: As you can see I am trying out MikeMayl. I have a few ideas/problems I'd like to pass along. I am running it on my machine at work (so far), and it is a IBM model 70, 386/20, 12 megs, 120 meg drive. * Would like to be able to print to LPT2-3... Here at work, my laser is on LPT3: * Would like to be able to use ■ for my tagline, or have a way to turn on/off 'Fido-compliant' taglines. * Wondered why you stripped off the TLX taglines? * .DOC file needs REAL page breaks... sending it to the printer nets page breaks in the middle of things. * Would like to be able to Twit from withing the software, not have to add them manually in a file. * Would like a quicker way to enter/reply to messages, have to press <ENTER> and such too many times * It has locked up a couple of times on me * The 'Press any key' to continue on the News/Welcome screens did not work... just continued to scroll on by. * Taglines seemed to always be on the 1st one even though I tell it to sequentially increment. I'll still play with it, and will let you know of anything else! -Dennis --- * MikeMayl v1.0 * I cut it three times and it's still too short! * IBM Net Connection <> Indpls., IN <> (317)882-5575 16.8 Duals All Lines * PostLink(tm) v1.06 IBMNET (#5) : RelayNet(tm) Regional Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (01:23) Number: 3095 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PATRICK LEE From: JOE NEGRON Subj: RoboMail & Windows Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-15-93 08:18, Patrick Lee uttered the following to Joe Negron: JT> I run it under DESQview without any crashes. Windoze too. Different > strokes (machines). JN> I guess. I will try it again with v1.1 is released. PL> I just tried RoboMail under Windows 3.1 and it ran perfectly. No > noticeable speed lost (even while I am receiving a fax in the back- > ground -- well, the reason I was in Windows in the first place). Have you heard of, or tried, Faxworks for OS/2? I haven't, but I've heard nothing but good things about it on the various OS/2 conferences. PL> However, I still can't get RoboMail's shell routine to PKZIP/PKUNZIP > cooperate in OS/2 2.1 GA! OS/2 simply thinks I have finished upon > return from PKZIP/PKUNZIP. Argh. I can see no error message either, it > just closes the window. Ever heard of this kind of error, Joe? No, never have. Just a wild guess...can you precede the PKZIP/PKUNZIP command with a "COMMAND /C" or something? --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Fri, 06-18-1993-- ... Make somebody happy. Mind your own business. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (10:00) Number: 3096 of 3255 (Refer# 3003) To: MARTIN SCHILDKRET From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) MS> My reader OLX 2.2 puts the time and date I replied to each MS> individual message. Getting the time and date from the system MS> clock. So if you use the readers date/time it will probably have MS> the same date unless it takes you more than one day to answer all MS> the messages. The time would be different for each replied message. Now how does that get into a *.REP file? You can use an extrenal editor and wouldn't that save an ASCII file. Does the *.REP dfile later pack the messages - and does it know where it belongs? MS> Unless of course you could answer two messages in less than MS> 59 seconds <<gg>>. Only one message. The first message could be FINISHED at 9:27:01 and the second one at 9:27:58 --- * File-Link BBS (212)-627-1901 / 100 nodes / V.32bis * PostLink(tm) v1.06 FILELINK (#1604) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:12) Number: 3097 of 3255 (Refer# 3024) To: JOE NEGRON From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JN>reader user to know how to do this, without (I assume) even a warning JN>recommendation in the documentation, is unrealistic. --- It's in the documentation. 0 /OP0 Disable the use of the EMS pageframe for overlay management. By default, RoboMail will use your EMS pageframe for its overlay transfer and management area. This frees 50K of memory for use by the program. If you encounter problems while RoboMail is running and you suspect an incompatibility with RoboMail's usage of the EMS pageframe, please specify this option. (page 60) If RoboMail has been "Hanging" or you are experiencing other difficulties which are causing the program to exit abnormally, it's possible that there may be an incompatibility between RoboMail's usage of expanded (EMS) memory and your memory manager or other TSR programs. If you suspect that this may be the problem, please disable RoboMail's usage of the EMS pageframe be adding ";/OP0" to the end of your ROBOMAIL environment variable. If you do not have a ROBOMAIL environment variable in use at the moment, please add the following line to the end of your AUTOEXEC.BAT file: SET ROBOMAIL=/OP0 (page 63-64) I suppose it would have been nice had he mentioned the Desqview problem specifically. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/17/93 06:52 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 15 ■ Have you ever had to finally decide... * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:12) Number: 3098 of 3255 (Refer# 3064) To: DAN LLOYD From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL CRASHING. Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DL>>DJ ∙ EMS req. 520k limit 1024k DL>Unless you have E:520 in your parameter line (SET ROBO...), this may --- Actually I changed this to: memory required 520k, limit 640k ems required 1024k, limit 1024k It is working fine with no crashes. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/17/93 07:20 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 15 ■ Have you ever had to finally decide... * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:12) Number: 3099 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PATRICK LEE From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL IMPORT MESSAGES Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL>However, you shouldn't keep all those read messages in the Recent box PL>since the strength of RoboMail is that you have three separate area f PL>messages - Recent, Archive, and Folder. --- I realize that. The reason they are in the recent box is because I'm behind in mail. I now have over 7000 messages in recent....ugh! They haven't even been glanced at, so I haven't assigned any action to them. Is there a way to assign an action to messages in the recent box according to their date? For example, archive/discard/keep all messages older than 10 June 1993. «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/17/93 07:25 --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 15 ■ <--Yes, it's registered...just waiting for the mail! * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:12) Number: 3100 of 3255 (Refer# 3026) To: PATRICK LEE From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL>course, packing is always recommended on a regular basis just to make PL>sure everything is cleaned up. ----- It is? "Packing" refers to the process of permanently removing all the disk space consumed by "deleted" data from a database. RoboMail keeps a strict watch on all discarded data within your message database and will efficiently recycle it during the message importing process. For this reason, packing RoboMail's data files is not normally necessary. ~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ However, For times when you are attempting to free up as much disk space as possible, or if you are making a conscious effort to permanently reduce the number of messages in your RoboMail database, RoboMail provides a set of routines for packing its data files. Press [P] from the control panel screen to call up a menu of available packing options: (page 56 of Robomail instructions) --- ■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 15 ■ Have you ever had to finally decide... * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (14:42) Number: 3101 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: DANIEL JUAREZ Subj: ROBOMAIL REGISTRATION! Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Ya-hooo!! Got my registered disks today!! I don't know if any of the files on it work. I just copied the key file to my RM directory. Check out that beautiful tagline! «░▒▓█DANIEL█▓▒░» 06/17/93 12:11 --- ■ RM 1.0 00594 ■ Do Quarter Horses have only a single leg? * The Brass Cannon, Orem, Utah, (801)226-8310 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BRASS (#1126) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (10:00) Number: 3102 of 3255 (Refer# 3088) To: GARTH MCKAY From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM│ Great. Since I am also interested in editors I also grab the GM│ Intelic Editors conference once a week. Very interesting GM│ threads. Since it is a general conference for editors the GM│ authors and/or the beta testers for the popular editors (TSE, GM│ MultiEdit, Brief, Vedit, Boxer,...) make an appearance there. GM│ To wit, Mel is there and also George De Bruin who had an GM│ unfortunate experience with RM crashing and gave up on it GM│ immediately. So maybe if Mel likes it he will encourage George GM│ to give it another shot <g>. Oh I have a crash so now and then, but do not lose any messages, great to know that. It isn't really bad, and it depends a lot as what and how you have it setup. For instance, I have some 51 files, setup for database operations, and haven't had those kinds of problems. Other than that it all works fine. Thanks for your input. Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Friday, June 18, at 07:00 am ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (21:25) Number: 3103 of 3255 (Refer# 3036) To: JIM HANOIAN From: JIM SMITH Subj: Pruning messages Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JH▐│ I liked the implementation of that feature in Speed. My favorite ▐│ Speed feature, though, was the quote-reformat. Actually the quote reformat was part of SEDIT, which can be used with any reader. Unless you were referring to SPEED's smart quoting? jim.smith@the-matrix.com . --- ■ SPEED 1.4c #0 ■ Finally! I fixed the last bug..last bug..last bu{~*&%@& * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (21:29) Number: 3104 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: MIKE MAY From: CHARLIE GABRIEL Subj: MikeMayl Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hi Mike, you have a very nice looking reader that is easy to configure and use; however, I had a couple of problems: 1. Out os String Space or some such while reading RIME-ANSI. 2. I added some taglines to the list - - about 600 and got thrown off. What is the tagline limit? --- * MikeMayl v1.0 * Complex problems have simple, wrong answers. * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (00:20) Number: 3105 of 3255 (Refer# 3093) To: DANE BEKO From: CHARLIE GABRIEL Subj: MikeMayl v1.0 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) «DB»│Hi Mike. Got a copy of MikeMayl v1.0 and tried using it on a │LUNATIC.QWK packet. However, the reader refused to display any │conference number above #408. The Lunatic Fringe has over 1000 ╘══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╛ Hmmm... I went back to MM to check this and it was up to 418 now! --- ■ DeLuxe² 1.26b #11607 ■ ∞∞∞ τh¡$ τåg£¡ⁿè mªδë ƒΓφm ΓΣç£ëδ Åç¡¡ çhåΓá¢τΣΓ$ ∞∞ * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-14-93 (16:45) Number: 3106 of 3255 (Refer# 3008) To: GARTH MCKAY From: CHRIS PRIEDE Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM>CP> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by GM>CP> deleted messages whenever possible. At least, it should if it GM> Chris, I think you are referring to the DBV Clean-Up in the GM> Background and the smiley face indicator. No. This is what I'm really referring to: suppose you deleted a 1530 byte message. This will leave one free entry in header file and 1530 byte free area in message text file. When you import new mail, Robomail should reuse this space for message of the same size (not likely) or smaller, using best fit strategy. For example, if the new message was 1450 bytes, it would leave 80 bytes of free space, which probably will remain unused until joined with adjacent free area. I don't want to reinstall Robomail to see if it really operates that way, but if it does, frequent packing is not necessary. I have programmed systems using this method and I wouldn't expect anything less in a database mailreader. --- * D.W.'s TOOLBOX, Atlanta GA, 404-471-6636 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 DWTOOLBOX (#1035) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (16:26) Number: 3107 of 3255 (Refer# 3026) To: PATRICK LEE From: CHRIS PRIEDE Subj: RoboMail packing Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PL>-> I was under impression Robomail reuses space occupied by deleted PL>-> messages whenever possible. At least, it should if it is properly PL>-> designed. Packing is still recommended, but less often. PL>Of course it does. 8-) I expected it does -- Robomail is not exactly what I want, but I can see it is a very fine product... PL>It even does background packing and cleaning of the database while you PL>are doing other things like reading messages or writing replies! That is very nice, I noticed it too. Of course, it could delay it's response on slower machines. Can you turn it off? --- * D.W.'s TOOLBOX, Atlanta GA, 404-471-6636 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 DWTOOLBOX (#1035) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (03:33) Number: 3108 of 3255 (Refer# 3096) To: SAMMY FINKELMAN From: MARTIN SCHILDKRET Subj: DATE-TIME STAMPING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) SF│Now how does that get into a *.REP file? You can use an extrenal editor │and wouldn't that save an ASCII file. Does the *.REP dfile later pack │the messages - and does it know where it belongs? You would be probably better off asking a SYSOP about this like Bill Marcy. Then you could be sure of getting the exact answer to your questions. I am not sure..... * OLX 2.2 * I Can't Remember The Last Time I Forgot Something.... --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-15-93 (21:03) Number: 3109 of 3255 (Refer# 3011) To: BOB OFFICER From: MARK HALL Subj: BlueWave RE:s Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Bob Officer confabulated about BlueWave RE:s to All BO> Is there a way to force BlueWAve to turn off the RE: prefix on BO> subject headeds.... This is a pain... maybe the DEfault should be BO> changed. BO> The RE: makes threads hard to follow! BO> Bob Yeap, it's under the miscellaneous menu in the config area. When you get there, I think it's under the read/reply area. Good luck. Mark ... o<-< Help! I've fallen and I can't get up! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- * CT Department of Revenue Services BBS - Hartford, CT - (203) 297-5907 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 AJJJR (#5011) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (06:50) Number: 3110 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: .REP PACKETS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) KD> JH> You were using Mega, right? Well, just make all your replies KD> JH> permanent (use a macro) and you will have them for as long as you KD> JH> want. If you need to re-send them, just change the Export flag in KD> JH> the header of the message, and it will go out in your next packet. KD> KD> The one thing I don't like is that they get moved non permanent KD> again after exporting... I'll figure out something. Thanks for the KD> reply! So, as I said (and Chau did too) after the export, run a macro that looks for all your outgoing messages and makes them permanent. Pretty easy stuff for MegaReader! Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (00:53) Number: 3111 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: PAUL BELL From: GARY PETERSEN Subj: SILVER XPRESS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) PB> Well, thanks for what you gave me so far, I wish Hector PB> would call me, as I left a message with the lady on the PB> 800 number and she said he would call, but he hasn't yet. I just got a message from Hector, on his bbs, yesterday. He needs to see a mail packet that causes this error. The lady you spoke with is Andrea, his wife. Why don't you call again and tell either of them that I've passed on Hector's message and decide how to get one of the packets you're having trouble with to him. PB> I hope this will work out, as I like what I read about Silver Xpress. I really like the program, and have found nothing else that works as well, at least for me. Gary ... I'd rather Xpress than switch! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.02B04 --- * Sound Advice ■ Gladstone ■ MO ■ (816)436-4516 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SOUNDADVICE (#5072) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (12:15) Number: 3112 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOAN STRAKER From: KAREN DAVIS Subj: READER FOR 286 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JS> What are the best choices for a reader using a 286 PC? I'm interested i JS> using a database reader if possible, for both rime and fido networks. Database readers on slower machines are always a little problem, as you wait a while for import and all. Mega, Speed, and Powerqwk should all be OK; Robomail would be awfully slow. I use Mega because I need to be able to move between boards and answer a message on one board to another board. I'd suggest looking at all 3 and deciding which meets your needs best. Karen Davis RIME ->1481 or ->823 FIDO 1:207/206 or 1:207/225 --- ■ TLX v2.91ß ■ An "X" SLMR operator. Blessed with MegaRead. * THEMCP Master Control BBS! - Riverside, CA - 909-354-7744 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 THEMCP (#1481) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-20-93 (16:01) Number: 3113 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: MAURICE ROBINSON Subj: BlueWave problems Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Here is a question that I hope someone can answer: I am using EZ-Reader at this point simply because it WORKS. However, I am still evaluating various readers and tried BlueWave, and for some unknown reason it does not work with my PC Board QWK packet. All I get is garbage in the message header and nothing at all in the message display field. I am using XMS memory swap and am running DOS 5.0 plus NDOS. EZ-Reader is working fine (obviously), but why won't BlueWave work with my system? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks! --- ■ EZ 1.33 ■ Never let a cat play with a Food Processor <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (22:49) Number: 3116 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: CHAU PHAM Subj: .REP PACKETS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: KAREN DAVIS«═── 6/08/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/19/1993───────────. │The one thing I don't like is that they get moved non permanent │again after exporting... I'll figure out something. Thanks for the │reply! └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙─────────. You can create a macro to permanent *all* your own messages. Example (untested). <AltQ><AltQ>f<AltT><AltP><Enter><AltC>.... <AltQ><AltQ>f ; Pop up Alt-<Q>uick Scan Menu, select [F]rom You <AltT><AltP><Enter> ; Alt-<T>ag All, Alt-<P>erment Menu, <Enter> = ; Permanent (<Down><Enter> = UnPermanent) <AltC> ; Clear Tagged. ...and you can continue like normal.. example that you want to send the macro at beginning. IOW, you want to read *new* message as normal. <AltQ><AltQ>f<AltT><AltP><Enter><AltC> ; same as above <AltQ>e<Esc><AltU> ; add this to the above <AltQ>e ; Set Alt-<Q>uick Scan to [E]xporting <Esc><AltU> ; Escape Quick Scan and Alt-<U>nRead mail. IOW, instead of use [R]ead, you can just hit the macro and it'll do the samething: Permanent all your own messages, then UnRead mail like normal. And the macro should work from reading mode too. * Qwkit 1.0b * SAPFU -- Surpassing All Pevious Foul Ups --- * Onwards And Upwards BBS (402) 553-7390/7521 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 ONANDUP (#1600) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (18:18) Number: 3117 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: JOE NEGRON Subj: DATABASE READERS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) * On 06-16-93 22:28, Dan Lloyd uttered the following to Joe Negron: DL> That would be true if DV used EMS, but it doesn't (though it does make > it possible for other programs to use it). In a DV environment, with > multiple programs running, if just one is using EMS, that creates the > need for the page frame, and consequently the conflict. If, however, JN∙ Hmmm...well, then it sounds like RoboMail ought to use a more compatible ∙ method of accessing auxiliary memory. To expect the typical offline DL> It does. It can use EMS, XMS, UMB, and HMA. Ah, OK. JN∙ reader user to know how to do this, without (I assume) even a warning ∙ or recommendation in the documentation, is unrealistic. DL> "That would be true if" there were not a warning or recommendation. > There is, however, not only BOTH, but multiple occurrences and > examples, along with the same warning if RM crashes because the reader > fails to read. DL> Has it ever occurred to you that your problems with RM may be related > to not RTFM? :-) Well, I said "I assume"! <g> --Joe in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, Sat, 06-19-1993-- ... Pardon my driving - I'm trying to reload. --- * MoonDog BBS Bklyn,NY USA (718) 692-2498 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 MOONDOG (#35) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (13:32) Number: 3118 of 3255 (Refer# 3053) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail & wide messages Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> When reading/viewing messages that go beyond the 72 columns (off to t -> right of the screen) how to you see them? I can't see the part of the -> message that extends off the screen. For now, reply to the message and use Alt-N to go to the original messsage window. There you can use the cursor key to go to the end of line and read it. Hopefully Dan can implement some improvement in this area ... -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (21:49) Number: 3119 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: GARY NYSTROM Subj: Error Message Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) I am experiencing a problem with OLXTD. Often times I get an error message saying there's a problem with my PKUNZIP. Yet I have no problem with it using BlueWave. Any suggestions? I don't think it's my PKUNZIP program since this happens on my friend's OLXTD also. I would appreciate the help if anyone has an answer. Thanks, GN --- * Baudville MEGA-ROM! ■ Eugene, OR USA ■ (503)343-1483 ■ HST/DS ■ * PostLink(tm) v1.06 BAUDMEGAROM (#5239) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:42) Number: 3120 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: offlien readers Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) KD>Thanks for your opinions, you know you echo almost all of my KD>notes. Our main difference is about the reliablility of Mega. KD>I've had fewer crashes with Mega than with SLMR. Probably just the KD>hardware, or that I dont' take it to the limit. You're welcome. No, MegaMail is not limited. 8088 with 640K, or, for SLMR, 80286 with 640K and no hard disk... KD>I also agree with your recommendations for first time readers. 1st, Speed, SLMR, and KingQWK are all good first-timers. --- ■ KingQWK 1.05 ■ Politically correct..... Don't think! * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-17-93 (10:43) Number: 3121 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: MATT KLECZEWSKI Subj: offlien readers Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) KD>Thanks for letting me know that, that could be an important point KD>for someone. KingQWK is fastest on the laptop, but I had to PKLITE the exe, delete the config program and help files to get enough disk space. --- ■ KingQWK 1.05 ■ Polka your eyes out. * The Gold Mine (414) 458-0767 Sheboygan, Wi * PostLink(tm) v1.06 GLDMINE (#1825) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (20:27) Number: 3122 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: CHRIS YOKUM Subj: .REP PACKETS Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) │KD»>The one thing I don't like is that they get moved non permanent │KD»>again after exporting... I'll figure out something. Thanks for the │KD»>reply! ╘═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╛ What if you move them to another "board"(creat one by altering a QWK file) but the "board" would never be exported? ├Chris Yokum┤├RIME:5156┤├NVN:DYOKUM2┤├SECNet┤├ICENet:39@5851┤├WWIVNet:39@5879┤ ├TSN:58326┤├Smartnet┤├Global Link┤├Youthnet┤├FriendsNet┤├Have a nice day!┤ ... Leads 3 & 4 (RS-232) permanently connected to ground. --- ■ Do not remove!! ■ --- ■ ChrisMail 0.0 #0:I tried the rest, got what Joe and Alyce said. RBBS-UTI v3.01: Excelsior * Excelsior * Plattsburgh, NY * 518-566-7009 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EXCELSIOR (#5156) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (20:33) Number: 3123 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: KAREN DAVIS From: CHRIS YOKUM Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) │KD»>Qwkkit is a little ad on program that twits and adds taglines. ╘═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╛ So will TLX, but TLX doesn't have a twit thingy. But it does let you select taglines. :) ├Chris Yokum┤├RIME:5156┤├NVN:DYOKUM2┤├SECNet┤├ICENet:39@5851┤├WWIVNet:39@5879┤ ├TSN:58326┤├Smartnet┤├Global Link┤├Youthnet┤├FriendsNet┤├Have a nice day!┤ ... Does this tagline remind you of Agatha Christie? --- ■ Do not remove!! ■ --- ■ ChrisMail 0.0 #0:ERROR@21673 MESSAGE ABOVE BROKEN, BLAME SYSOP. RBBS-UTI v3.01: Excelsior * Excelsior * Plattsburgh, NY * 518-566-7009 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EXCELSIOR (#5156) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (20:39) Number: 3124 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOAN STRAKER From: CHRIS YOKUM Subj: READER FOR 286 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) │JS»>What are the best choices for a reader using a 286 PC? I'm interested i │JS»>using a database reader if possible, for both rime and fido networks. ╘═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╛ MegaMail, of course!!! :) ├Chris Yokum┤├RIME:5156┤├NVN:DYOKUM2┤├SECNet┤├ICENet:39@5851┤├WWIVNet:39@5879┤ ├TSN:58326┤├Smartnet┤├Global Link┤├Youthnet┤├FriendsNet┤├Have a nice day!┤ ... dataBase files corrupted: Abort, Retry, Suicide? --- ■ Do not remove!! ■ --- ■ ChrisMail 0.0 #0:ERROR@12849 COMMAND.COM NOT FOUND, BLAME SYSOP RBBS-UTI v3.01: Excelsior * Excelsior * Plattsburgh, NY * 518-566-7009 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EXCELSIOR (#5156) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (20:41) Number: 3125 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: BARBARA ANTHONY From: CHRIS YOKUM Subj: SLMR REPEATED MESSAGES Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) │BA»>I was wondering how one repeats the same message that has been typed │BA»>once, can be repeated on a number of bbs's. For instance, if you have ╘═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╛ Try RoboComm. It's the only reader I've seen that can easily do taht!. I still like Megamail more though. :) ├Chris Yokum┤├RIME:5156┤├NVN:DYOKUM2┤├SECNet┤├ICENet:39@5851┤├WWIVNet:39@5879┤ ├TSN:58326┤├Smartnet┤├Global Link┤├Youthnet┤├FriendsNet┤├Have a nice day!┤ ... <g> <G> <G+> beat cha' wonder what I'm doing? --- ■ Do not remove!! ■ --- ■ ChrisMail 0.0 #0:ERROR@16237 NO ERROR, PLEASE BLAME SYSOP RBBS-UTI v3.01: Excelsior * Excelsior * Plattsburgh, NY * 518-566-7009 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 EXCELSIOR (#5156) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (21:47) Number: 3126 of 3255 (Refer# 3022) To: CHAU PHAM From: JAMES NUCKOLLS Subj: WinQwk Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) ┌─═»ƒrom: JAMES NUCKOLLS«═── 6/10/1993──────£aVista, NE ■ 06/13/1993 CP├▌ │I sant off for my reg. copy of winqwk; but 3 days later got my letter i │sent them saying that they moved. If anyone know how to get in touch with │the maker of winqwk please leave me message. CP├▌ │thanx RW CP├▌ │--- WinQwk 1.30 #0 └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────╜ End Quote ╙ CP├▌ I have heard that the author had hard drive crashed and lost the code, CP├▌so there will be no newer version than WinQWK v2.0B. The author is now CP├▌working on a different reader (forgot the name). Thanks... anything else you'd like to share about this new reader? --- ■ SPEED 1.4ß 1140 ■ If ya can't say anything nice, sit by me. * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-20-93 (01:19) Number: 3127 of 3255 (Refer# 3072) To: JOSEPH TYSON From: FRANK VLAMINGS Subj: ROBOMAIL Read: 06-29-93 (22:40) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) -> him to join the Ilink network with the Robomail conference. That -> network and conference is extremely active. If you haven't tried it, -> you may like to join it. Good luck and bye .. :-)) JT│ Frank, could you list some boards that carry Ilink on the East coast JT│ (near NC)? Thanks. I wish that I could help you, Joseph, but I have no idea, where Ilink network is available at the East Coast. Maybe someone reading this message can help you? Bye .. :-)) ≈≈ Frank Vlamings on Saturday, June 19, at 09:05 pm ≈≈ --- ■ RM 1.0 00282 ■ Assassination is the extreme form of censorship. * SPACE BBS * 415-323-4193 * BoardWatch Top 10 * Internet Site * * PostLink(tm) v1.06 SPACE (#606) : RelayNet(tm) Hub <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (20:30) Number: 3128 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: FRANK VLAMINGS From: KAREN DAVIS Subj: MEGAMAIL / MEGAREAD Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FV> Oh that is interesting, Karen. Have you taken a look at shareware FV> program RoboMail yet? It is a powerful database off-line mail reader, FV> and if you have not done so, you will otherwise deprive yourself of FV> one of the best readers, I have come across. I just recently started FV> using it, registered it, and am a convert after having used PMDBM for FV> 18 months. Hope this helps. Bye .. :-)) I looked at Robo. I refuse to use it for long unregistered, and don't know if I like it much anyway in comparison to Mega. It may still not have the one thing I need: to be able to change BBSs in your reply. Sometimes I have to use a backup BBS for mail, and to avoid confusion I like to send my replies back through my usual board if at all possible. [especially on RIME with routed mail and all]. So I just edit the header and the reply goes to the board I wish it to. I will not use any reader that cannot do that. Speed and PQWK cannot, I don't know absolutely for certain about Robo (I know you can forward replies, but I don't want this to look like a forward). --- * THEMCP Master Control BBS! - Riverside, CA - 909-354-7744 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 THEMCP (#1481) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-18-93 (17:37) Number: 3129 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: DAN LLOYD From: ADAM ZION Subj: Pruning messages Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) AZ> Another nice feature of Speed Read 1.30 and beyond... when you AZ> tell it to reply privately to a message, it automatically looks for AZ> and places the routing NUMBER at the top left. Quite slick. ╙───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ DL║RoboMail, v1.0, does this too. ╙───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I figured as much. Let me say this again (for the umpteenth time): I have nothing against RoboMail. When I have the time (in two weeks or so, when this damned intensive bio class is finally done), I'll be able both to resume my duties as RIME Star Trek Conference Co-Host and to play around with RoboMail a bit. (The only good thing about taking a 4 hour class every morning, then working 8 hours the same evening: it makes days when you *only* work seem like vacation!). At the moment, I am somewhat married to Speed Read, as I quite like its features and the support from Jim Smith. RoboMail is most likely the most powerful- and biggest- mail reader out there. I'll play with it, and give it a fair shake, when I have the time to do so. SEE YUZ! from Adam Zion Fri 06-18-1993, 5:23:42 pm ... CP #11 ■ The History of the Electric Vacuum: The Joy of Sux. --- ■ SPEED 1.4b #1284 ■ * Farpoint Station BBS / Norristown, PA / (215) 272-6244 [PAPHI] * PostLink(tm) v1.06 FARPOINT (#5146) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (17:30) Number: 3130 of 3255 (Refer# 3080) To: JEFF JENNINGS From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: OLX Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JJ> JH>You have the classic symptoms of INT9 problems. There are fixes JJ> JH>out for this problem... look for files called INT9FIX or JJ> JH>FIXSHIFT. JJ> JJ> I found this program and tried it and so far it works! I am hoping the JJ> change is truly there. Also, the file said it was for problems with JJ> lantastic which caused this but my system is a simple 386sx with a meg JJ> of ram. But it did the job. Thanks again. Not just a Lantastic problem, but one of ANY program interfering with the processing of keystrokes. The Lantastic REDIR does slow down the return, and as a result gets the blame in enough cases that it almost gets a fix named for it. MicroSoft put one out for identical problems with some compiles of QuickBasic (I think it was). Glad you got the fix! Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (17:30) Number: 3131 of 3255 (Refer# 3089) To: GARTH MCKAY From: JIM HANOIAN Subj: ROBOMAIL PACKING Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) GM> GM> There is no space reclaimed or packing done at this point. GM> GM> DL> Chris is correct, at least per the manual. Note (from p. 55): GM> GM> My mistake, where was my head! I should have been banned from GM> the keyboard that evening! Yes, the space will in fact be GM> reused. Give yourself a promotion, Garth. The trick that is being used is common to databases and programming of them. What happens is that the outgoing records are set to delete, but are never really eliminated from the database. When new records are added, the system checks for the existence of a deleted record, which is then replaced with the new one. Actual records are added only when you run out of deleted ones. Assuming that you read the same conferences day-to-day, you will generally keep the same real number of messages in the database at all times, therefore the old ones aging out of the system get replaced with newly downloaded ones, so there is no net change. HOWEVER, if you decide to re-align your conferences, you will most likely want to purge/pack/whatever the database as there may very well be a major change in the total number of messages carried in the database. If you think about it, if you were generally running say, 2000 messages, and you change your aging or drop conferences, and run at more like 1500 messages, you will be permanently carrying 500 deleted messages, and they will be taking up space on your hard drive. This is the reason for packing or purging or whatever... to reduce the messagebase down to the size that you really need. Jim --- * NO-Frills BBS, Falls Church, VA 703-538-4634 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 NOFRILLS (#1299) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-19-93 (18:42) Number: 3132 of 3255 (Refer# NONE) To: JOAN STRAKER From: JIM SMITH Subj: READER FOR 286 Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) JS▐│ What are the best choices for a reader using a 286 PC? I'm ▐│ interested in using a database reader if possible, for both rime ▐│ and fido networks. Be sure to try SPEED READ. Not only does it work on a 286 -- that's what I wrote it on and use it on. :) jim.smith@the-matrix.com . --- ■ SPEED 1.4d #0 ■ My tags are on strike. They're demanding more space! * Lunatic Fringe BBS*Richardson TX*214-235-5288*USR DS*QWK Central * PostLink(tm) v1.06 LUNATIC (#1282) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-21-93 (01:43) Number: 3133 of 3255 (Refer# 3101) To: DANIEL JUAREZ From: DAVID MULLENS Subj: ROBOMAIL REGISTRATION! Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) DJ>Ya-hooo!! Got my registered disks today!! I don't know if any of the DJ>files on it work. I just copied the key file to my RM directory. DJ>Check out that beautiful tagline! Good deal Daniel. Looks like I beat ya by four. David Mullens 06/20/93 at 23:33 --- ■ RM 1.0 00590 ■ You're only young once. You're immature forever. * Sudden Impact * Kokomo, IN * 317-457-5957 * PostLink(tm) v1.06 IMPACT (#5091) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>> Date: 06-20-93 (13:30) Number: 3134 of 3255 (Refer# 3095) To: JOE NEGRON From: PATRICK LEE Subj: RoboMail & Windows Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: OfflineMail (364) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Joe Negron writes: -> Have you heard of, or tried, Faxworks for OS/2? I haven't, but I've -> heard nothing but good things about it on the various OS/2 conference No, not yet. I just downloaded the beta S3 driver from IBM so I can see 1024x768x256 on screen. The normal VGA screen is simply too small. I'll keep an eye out for messages about Faxworks though, thanks. But in the mean time, I'll install WinFax Pro from ground up under WinOS2 and see if that helps. I am sure it is some configuration file somewhere that has not been updated. -> Just a wild guess...can you precede the PKZIP/PKUNZIP command with a -> "COMMAND /C" or something? Hmm ... I can try that. Thanks. -- Patrick <patlee@panix.com> --- * The New York Running Board*718-5191791/HST*654-1349/DS* * PostLink(tm) v1.06 RUNNINGB (#3) : RelayNet(tm) <<<>>>